• Tenderizer@aussie.zone
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    21 days ago

    This post misses another reason for voting being rusted-on Labor. The alternatives are more interested in virtue signalling than actually forming and keeping government. Labor have delivered meaningful results to Australians, in some areas they’ve not delivered but they’ve lost every election where they promised solutions to those issues.

    Minor parties have historically blocked forward progress. The ETS, the HAFF, the logging ban in Tasmania, etc. Labor has historically delivered forward progress (Renewables, Superannuation, etc).

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      21 days ago

      The ETS was widely considered to be worse than doing nothing for climate issues. Rudd’s government refused to talk to third parties over the ETS, and exclusively negotiated with the coalition. A year later the Gillard government actually talked to the cross bench and much, much better policy was passed.

      The HAFF was passed, but only after the cross bench managed to eke out amendments to make it actually commit to doing something.

      Both of those policies started as pure virtue signaling, and ended up doing material good only in spite of Labor.

      (I don’t know anything about the logging ban)

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      Tell me your age group without telling me your age group lol.

      Younger people who are themselves doing well, at least would recognise how much the ladder has been pulled up behind the older generations.

      Housing is an absolute joke in this country, and for some reason no one really wants to fix it. (The reason is greed/entire life savings in the unproductive asset they live in)

      “Labor” has been a misnomer for a long time. Hopefully a true left-wing party can gain some traction (not the greens, who are champaign socialists who don’t even democratically form policy within their party, their membership gets no say in anything)

      Life is not pretty good right now.

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          4 hours ago

          I started writing out a massive rebuttal but realised I should source it to back myself up, and then writing it became a task I didn’t have time for 😅

          I haven’t forgotten about this, just shot myself in the foot.

          I’d have to look further into this particular sources but this seems pretty subjective.

          Which, I grant the phrase “life is pretty good” which I took issue with, also is.

          I just posit that there is a lot wrong in Australia that is getting worse, and there are a number of areas where Labor is tinkering, and not making large changes like they once did decades ago, and still could.

          As for a longer sourced comment, shall have to wait until I have time. Working overtime like crazy this week :/

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            3 hours ago

            alllll goood no rush

            I just posit that there is a lot wrong in Australia that is getting worse

            I blame social media or maybe just the media in general

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        Life is not pretty good right now.

        I’d say it is for most things

        I have solar, a solar battery, and EV, stable employment, great job actually, not being invaded by Russia, Brisbane won like all the local sports tournaments, I have unlimited music on Spotify, AI has been huge for me, I’m getting so much more done, my local cafe makes amazing food, overall my life is no real complaints except

        Housing

        afaik housing is pretty much the only real negative we have here and it’s been a negative for me since at least 2012 when I was looking at buying a house for the first time

        no one really wants to fix it.

        I duno about that, outside of climate change I’d say it’s #2 on issues being tackled

        Research by Gamlen and his colleague Peter McDonald shows that since around the turn of the century, conservative governments have made universities dependent on international student fees, created the 457 temporary skilled migrant visa, expanded post-study work rights, and signed nearly 70% of Australia’s working holiday migration agreements.

        In contrast, Labor’s policies when in power have tended to tighten immigration rules.

        When in government, Labor has raised compliance and labour standards on students and skilled workers, cracked down on shonky education providers and visa hopping, and tightened English language tests.

        “There is no foundation to claims that Labor has followed a policy of ‘Big Australia’,” they conclude.

        In other words, says Gamlen, “it’s the temporary program which creates a lot of the issues that the Coalition are most worried about, and yet they are the party most in favour of the temporary migration”.

        https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/nov/30/do-as-i-say-not-as-i-do-why-labor-and-the-coalition-are-both-conflicted-on-migration-policy

        Labor has promised to support the build of 1.2m homes, and 55,000 social and affordable homes, by June 2029.

        https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/jun/15/labor-has-promised-12m-new-homes-in-its-second-term-is-it-possible

        I duno if they can build that many homes but tbh I’m not even aware there was a target prior to labor coming in