• Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.netEnglish
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      2 days ago

      Non-hierarchical systems where power of authority comes from the bottom up through mutual agreements between participants to ensure no singular entity within the government can command control of another.

      Have you even attempted to read any anarchist theory? This is Anarchism 101

      • agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works
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        1 day ago

        I have, and I get that, but how is that meaningfully different from the US system as it’s designed? The states joined together in a mutual agreement, politicians are supposed to be temporary representatives, the three branches are supposed to check each other. And yet, corruption.

        Like how would a successful system look substantially different? How do you fix the vulnerabilities while still having a system which fulfills the needs it’s designed for? All the theory I’ve read either focuses on conceptual principles and hand-waves the implementation, or winds up inventing something that looks an awful lot like the existing system.

        I’m not saying I’m opposed to the principles of anarchism, I just sincerely don’t understand what kind of structure is expected to accomplish them.

        • Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.netEnglish
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          1 day ago

          The American system is not a system where the power comes from the bottom up. It is very much hierarchical where entities have authoritative power over the rest. The feds exist above the state that exists above the county that exists above the city. When the feds make a law, everyone underneath them in the hierarchy has to obey its law or be policed. It’s happening right now in the US how this hierarchical structure is forcing states to withhold releasing SNAP funds because the federal government, her on the hierarchy, commands it of them. America is also hyper-capitalist, the system of private property ownership where the owner exists above the laborer/consumer, which is also inherently hierarchical.

          I’m not here to tutor you, and I’m not going to engage in an argument theorizing over “what works” with someone who doesn’t even understand the fundamentals of hierarchy versus anarchy. You have no authority to request examples of me for you to judge what does or doesn’t work.

          If you need explanation, there are videos on YouTube. Anark is a good one who is very in depth with his theoretical knowledge.

          • agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works
            11·
            1 day ago

            But it is bottom up. The feds are elected by the people, or appointed by those who were elected. Specific powers are vested in the state, county, and municipal levels. Co-equal branches were designed to prevent despotism.

            The fact that it went to shit anyway proves my point. With all the democratic accountability, checks and balances, local power, it was still corrupted and twisted into authoritarian hierarchy.

            I’ve watched plenty of videos, done plenty of reading, and what few actual structures I see presented are vulnerable to the same corrupting forces that subverted the American model.

            • Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.netEnglish
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              1 day ago

              No, it isn’t.

              The very concept of an elected representative who has authority over a mass of others is literally a hierarchy where the elected official gains authority over the populace.

              You don’t have a point that is worth a damn because your point is uneducated and misinformed.

              Whatever you watched you didn’t understand. You clearly do not comprehend even the fundamentals of Anarchism.