• daq@lemmy.sdf.org
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    3 days ago

    I see this take a lot and I think by now most people should realize that this isn’t really an issue of which president is in power. US has enough territory to basically fit some countries people compare it to into a single abandoned farm. Also individual states not only have economies that are bigger than most countries, but are also so wildly different from each other that pretty much the only thing they share is the USD. US does have trolleybuses, electric delivery cars and a fuckload of solar installations and charging stations in places where it makes sense. At the same time, running fiber in a place with population density of <1/km^2 or in a city where digging up the street costs millions in disruptions every hour is prohibitive.

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      3 days ago

      🤷‍♂️ My country also has some places with population density of about 1/km², and they have fiber. The cost might be prohibitive because of how much they charge/are allowed to charge? I dunno.

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        3 days ago

        Maybe fiber runs through that location? Digging is expensive no matter where you live. Adding a km of underground fiber seems very unlikely to hook up one person, but I’ll take your word for it.

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          2 days ago

          It didn’t run through prior, they dug it a few years ago. And it’s not just one person, it’s lots of people, but they live out in the woods where the neighbors are far between. Everyone should have fiber. That’s the motto/goal, since decades back. It shouldn’t be a matter of cost, having access to a stable internet connection is basically a human right at this point, like running water or electricity. At least considered to be where I live.

          I take it this isn’t the case in America.

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            2 days ago

            Sure, except if you choose to live in the middle of nowhere it’s hardly fair for everyone else (government) to pay for your decision. It’s not like they owe you other utilities. A house you build off grid will stay that way unless someone pays to change that. Just like you can get well water and solar electricity, you can also get satellite internet. I suspect you’re still comparing one of the Nordic countries or GB to US without realizing just how vastly different population density is here.

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              2 days ago

              Not everyone “chooses” to be born into an already built house they grew up in, lol. You’re making a lot of assumptions here.

              And having people living out in the country and tending to the forest and/or farming is essential for any country. It is fair because we depend on them. I’ll stop paying taxes when I can finally eat money. I’ll also gladly pay taxes to allow grampa to have Internet access so he can video chat with his grandkids. Anything else is selfish. Either way, they paid some of it out of their own pocket, I believe. So not everything was paid by the community. So there’s a bit of nuisance for you.

              We have the same thing here, dense cities and thin inland landscapes. Same thing as any country, really? 🤷‍♂️