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    Lmao as a long-time exMormon it is VERY gratifying to get this news through a random online channel as opposed to my weird af TBM (True Believing Mormon) family yapping on and on about how “inspired” and “blessed” it is to have upgraded underwear

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      Congrats to being an EX. Probably hard as shit leaving those damn all-consuming cults :(

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    I don’t know why any religion thinks an all powerful deity and creator of the known universe cares about what they wear. If anything I would think they’d be upset we’re covering our magnificent bodies.

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    I can’t imagine something more “cult-y” than having to wear church-approved underwear.

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    I still hold onto my ancestors beliefs that Mormons are stupid and Missouri shouldve finished their fucking job. Because after over a hundred and fifty fucken years they are still overly controlling shitstains filled with utter entitlement while believing in shit so stupid and divergent from mainline Christianity the Gnostics are giving them side eye.

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    Ugh. Can we finally get rid of those fucking cults? It’s 2025 goddammit. My head hurts reading shit like that.

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    It’s also why the garments were first introduced in other parts of the world where it was a more practical necessity, including hotter climates and where women typically wear dresses. Sleeveless tops, skirt bottoms and one-piece shifts were already available in Africa and the Philippines, according to the church’s online store.

    He said a friend who served a mission in Africa got the sleeveless garments there last year and encouraged Walker to buy them as soon as they hit the shelves stateside.

    So different parts of the world have options to wear different mormon underwear that other parts of the world can’t?

    “I feel like sometimes people act like it’s like a secret or something that we need to hide,” Walker said. “But to me, it’s just something that reminds me of promises I made with God, and so I don’t think it’s anything that I should keep secret.”

    This is very confusing. If there are other styles that are mormon approved that he doesn’t have because of his geography, does that mean those other people are not reminded of god because they aren’t wearing the same undergarmets he is? If no, then there doesn’t actually seem to be a correlation between what undergarments are worn and what promise was made to god, right? If church leaders can introduce new styles of undergarments, then where is god in the garments at all? If yesterday an undergarment wasn’t church approved (and wouldn’t remind a person of promises to god) the why, today, with the new undergarment approved would it suddenly take on the property of reminding of god?

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      Were talking about the same mormon church that said drinking soda was a sin for decades, but then bought stock in coca cola and suddenly decided soda was totally okay for everyone

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        This part of The Book of Mormon musical basically says it all about their racism and flip flopping of rules:

        And I believe that in 1978 God changed his mind about black people!!

        CHORUS Black People!!

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      Turns out that much of what the church says is “doctrine” is actually just authoritarianism.

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      I think we can still see it as positive: an oppressive religion is allowing a minor concession on tradition. That doesn’t happen every day.

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        Yes it does. This is how all* religion works it starts out more conservative then slowly it becomes more and more relaxed. Look at Jehova’s Witnesses if you want to see something that most people would call a cult if only given their acrions slowly morphing into something approaching a regular religion in real time.

        • OFC not literally all religions and there are phases to it much like politics.

        Edit: this comes across as more harsh then intended and I’m not sure how to reword it so I’m just going to leave this here. Sorry if it came across as harsh not my intention at all and text is hard to do tone in.

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          The two major improvements with JW’s right now are that the New Zealand court battle means that they need to give up some aspects of “disfellowshipping” - basically, doing something against the religions rules could result in you losing all of your friends, family and social connection. The kind of situation where maybe you could talk to your family again if yo were actively dying. Now the rules allow sending along an invite them to church (“Kingdom Hall”) meetings and maybe a short “hello” occasionally.

          The other change is that they just got rid of the informal “ban” on college education that they’ve had for ages. Dads letting their kids get college educations could be punished at church, and there’s a ton of JW propaganda that discourages more than graduating high school. They’re recognizing that isn’t economically viable, and also they need educated professionals to run their ministry.

          I don’t know if that’s they are getting more “relaxed” though. It’s more a savvy game to hold on to power and avoid consequences.

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            I keep on JW news far far more than people that were never in should. They are absolutely getting more relaxed. The less strict time reporting and the allowance of things that they previously had a total ban on even outside of a court case is huge evidence to this, and have also outright stated that just because something has pegan orgins doesn’t mean it is still influenced by that today which is why they now outright allow people to toast.

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          Amish were always very good builders.

          Then their church said they could have power tools and then they became unstoppable.

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        This is a puff piece on Mormonism. Mormonism is a cult, not a religion, regardless of what Mormons (or tax officials that have been lobbied by Mormons to declare Mormonism a religion) say.

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          Every religion is a cult. You just seem to think some are somehow more legitimate than others. Every single religion is a device for control of a population. All of them, without exception.

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    If it’s just symbolic, why can’t they just wear any other similar undergarment that isn’t shitty?

    Religious garments are pretty common; in Judaism you have the tallit katan, which has fairly vague rules for construction and wear.