So glad kids can experience political influence in their personal lives. They will learn what needs to burn down.
I don’t know how American birth certificates work. Is he officially female for life, unless he wants it changed?
I imagine trans people would be quite happy in such a situation. Like winning the lottery.
There is a process to amend birth certificates, presumably initially intended for errors like this. But then people who successfully transitioned used the process to amend their birth certificates to reflect their new gender, because there was no other way to do it. The transphobes seized on this, and started processes that refuse to honor any late changes to birth certificates.
It should have been a simple matter to resolve - his doctor wites a note saying “This kid has boy parts, and always has. The birth certificate was always an administrative error”. But then, that would force the transphobes to acknowledge a role for facts and science to contradict their feelings. So, we can’t have that either.
So, they go on claiming that they are just out for the best interests of kids, and that justifies why they are treating this kid so poorly. When in reality, they are just protecting their narrative, at his expense.
i think sport, exspecially in schools, should always be mixed. Also i think the competetivness of american school sport is kind of toxic, it should be about having fun
Yeah, that will work out well. I cannot think of a sport that is played in school that would fair to the girls if all sports were mixed teams. By the time kids are 13-14 years old, the boys are starting to get to be bigger, taller, faster, and stronger. And the disparity only gets worse as they age.
And one of the driving tenants of sports IS to teach competitiveness.
Why should we be teaching competitiveness? That’s how you turn society into individuals who only look out for their own needs and are apathetic when you do things like a fascist coup. Oh wait…
Nah, I’d much rather be teaching kids cooperation.
(Sports are still great, but not for the reason of teaching competitiveness).
Ultimate Frisbee did this by forcing a certain number of boys/girl per team. If you don’t impose that you end up with a boys team anyway at high level.
Could always just not play.
Could have just not commented
The principal really needs to read the law. This school is so fucked.
https://codes.findlaw.com/az/title-15-education/az-rev-st-sect-15-120-02/
The law in question only prohibits biological males from participating in female sports. It does not prohibit females from joining boys teams. Compare and contrast sections “B” and “C”:
B. Athletic teams or sports designated for “females”, “women” or “girls” may not be open to students of the male sex.
C. This section does not restrict the eligibility of any student to participate in any interscholastic or intramural athletic team or sport designated as being for “males”, “men” or “boys” or designated as “coed” or “mixed”.
I also thought this was pretty interesting:
E. Any student who is deprived of an athletic opportunity or suffers any direct or indirect harm as a result of a school knowingly violating this section has a private cause of action for injunctive relief, damages and any other relief available under law against the school.
This is literally one of these first things they teach in a (at least NY public high schools) coaching course.
He should slam dunk on those fools. Check and rebound. Can’t take the heat… get out of the way girls.
Girl changing room as well?
He seems to be in limbo regarding that… From the article:
An Arizona school district has barred a teenage boy from boys’ sports teams, gym classes, and facilities
She said that the district also removed Laker from an all-boys gym class and have mandated that he use a separate restroom.
Sounds to me like he gets to use neither.
It’s worth reading the entire article by the way. The fuckery in the details makes it worse.
Critical question right here.
What a USA thing to do. Holy shit.
We informed the parent that documentation such as a chromosome analysis could be considered to help support or verify eligibility in accordance with policy.
I cannot imagine being the dumbass who said that with a straight face.
I don’t understand why it’s the school asking for this and not whoever updated the birth certificate? How did school administrators become the judges of who is a boy or girl?
My (cis female) birth certificate erroneously was filled out with “male”. Same error happened on the birth certificate of my mother (who is also cis female). It’s never caused either of us any problems. Schools enrolled us as female, driver’s licenses say female, etc.
When I was in college in the early 2000s, my dad’s mother helped me get a copy of my birth certificate, and was horrified her beautiful granddaughter was listed as male. She called up the county clerk and raised Cain, and then informed me it had been corrected. I’ve never needed to get a fresh copy since then, so I don’t know for sure, but it sounded like the word of an angry old lady was enough to get an update filed.
My (cis female) birth certificate erroneously was filled out with “male”. Same error happened on the birth certificate of my mother (who is also cis female).
Do they use drunkards to fill out important registration forms in the US?
There’s something like thirty boxes of information on the thing, and all the others are correct. I suspect whoever was typing it (on a typewriter - this was pre-computers) had several in a row that really were male babies and just got that stuck in their head.
How difficult is it to correct an obviously wrong record in the US?
Angry old ladies are the single scariest force on the planet.
Because if you make one angry, then you have to answer to all of their friends, family, caretakers, religious leaders, and bingo dealers.
They are also the reason why we are in this situation in the first play. Angry old lady energy serves both justice and tyranny.
republican laws often give the final say to the loudest karen and the cost onto the schools.
Because their the ones who will be prosecuted under the law if they allow a kid to play on the wrong team.
Did anyone inform the administration that documentation such as chromosome analysis could be considered to help support or verify eligibility in participating with the human race? Because it seems like they might be a slime mold, based on their integrity and decision-making ability.
Feels like malicious compliance to me. But who knows.
Edit: For those downvoting, someone else in the comments pasted a quote about a law that was passed in that state. So I was just speculating that maybe they were maliciously complying to show how ridiculous it is.
Unfortunately, the one experiencing the greatest maliciousness here is the kid.
That’s always the way.
That’s an interesting take. I didn’t think of it until you mentioned it, and now I need this to be true.
That’s not a bad thing. He’s going to have a lot of girlfriends
No he will get made fun of from all the other kids
Sounds like a fair exchange for a lot of girlfriends
Two things can be true
What a shithole country.
That’s beginning to feel like an understatement. We need a new type of hole to describe just how shit things are. A shit-Mariana Trench country, perhaps.
How 'bout… Trumphole? Truole?
Shitpact crater.
Uranus’s moon Miranda has features called coronae, at least one of which has a depth probably exceeding the Challenger Deep low point of the Mariana Trench - estimated at 10 to 20 kilometers, vs. Challenger Deep’s 10.4 kilometers.
Alternatively, the Kola Superdeep Borehole SG-3 has a depth of over 12.2 kilometers, also deeper than Challenger Deep.
That’s… Pretty deep.
But I think we also need total volume.
When they did a scan of my colon, they found I had pollips. Thats how we discovered I have cancer.
Then they cut the pollips off. I imagine that left a hole in the pollip area.
How about colon pollip hole?
colon pollip hole
Bush’s Secretary of State?
or everyone working for dumpy.
I think we can just call it dumpf’s diaper.
I have one, “the USA”.
It’s not the size of the whole that makes it bad, it’s the contents of the whole. So maybe a bloody diarrhea whole?
A diarrhea hole.
So is Lemmy.ca just another .ml with maple syrup?
You can’t possibly think the US is anything but terrible
No I do, but I live here. I can’t count how many Lemmy.ca folks giving this same type of response.
Gee, I wonder what could have happened to piss off the Canucks?
Hard telling.
Yea, hard tellin not thinking.
Mainer that chose to join our more sensible brothers to the North. Nothing but glad they would have me. America fucking sucks and living here is starting to suck even as a working class white guy, which is frankly most of my state. Why anyone would think a patriotic thought besides burn it all down at this point is beyond me.
Glad you made it! Happy you’re here, and I hope you’re settled and can help rescue others.
I’m still South of the border, I only meant in a digital sense that .ca allowed me to join, partly because they are the closest server to me physically afaik, but mostly that they seem the most level headed of the bunch. Just my opinion. But I would go to quite some lengths to emigrate if I thought it was actually feasible. I’m just a blue collar guy, hardly any savings, and crazy lucky to have convinced the bank and my landlord to sell me the house. I’m pretty stuck here as I see it, but there’s a lot of opportunities to help here too. Off the Internet I really try to moderate the acidity of my opinions, more flies to honey type of shit. /ramble
Some Canucks are angry at the aggression showed toward us by your national spokesman.
I’m sorry they’re representing us so poorly, as they should be better reflecting the lasting hurt from perceived treachery by a friendly nation in a way that’s more informative and less pithy. But this is where we are.
Remember, too, that our global representative isn’t perfect, but we narrowly missed getting our own absolutely incapable and inappropriate provincialist caricature of leadership, ourselves. I think there’s something in there, too.
Thanks for understanding. I think this is gonna get more stressful before it gets better, so I’m doubly worried if you’re near a border in a town normally enriched by tourism proceeds.
If that were me, I’d start wearing skirts and mascara. Let my nails grow out, tweeze my asshole, shave my treasure trail into a facsimile of a set of ovaries. Pitch my voice up, incorporate the words “bitch” and “tea” into my daily vernacular. Cry after sad movies and even harder after happy ones. Entirely unrelated to the article, btw
Take your pills, Alice.
At that point, don’t you just start using the girls facilities to try and force the issue? The girls would get their parents to complain a “boy” is in their bathrooms and delaying gym by waiting for him to use the locker room. How incredibly asinine that a doctor is not enough to assert the kid’s gender to their administration
Demand the school install a urinal in the ladies room.
Power move
The locker room is about to be very uncomfortable.
Given his wrestling I wonder what his weight class is. If he’s on the bigger side he will be destroying the legacy of women who likely would have won against other women.
The district pointed to a state law enacted in 2022, which mandates that school sports teams must be designated “based on the biological sex of the students who participate” in the sport. A federal judge blocked enforcement of that law in 2023, but only against two trans student-athletes who filed suit against it. (An appeals court upheld that injunction last year, and the Supreme Court declined to take up the case this summer.)
Any chance this is some malicious compliance?
The law in question doesn’t actually mandate that school sports teams must be designated “based on the biological sex of the students who participate” in the sport. If you read the law, it only prohibits biological males from participating in female sports. It does not prohibit biological females from participating in male sports. Quite the contrary, it specifically acknowledges that all students, regardless of sex or gender, are allowed to participate in “boys” sports.
https://codes.findlaw.com/az/title-15-education/az-rev-st-sect-15-120-02/
It’s really a no win situation though if the boy complies. Newsmax will show footage of a game he plays in as evidence that boys are playing in girls sports, and the idiots who watch will believe it and support even worse politicians and laws.
I don’t see what part of that even requires them to use the birth certificate
Could be! I was just commenting that the kid could engage in malicious compliance. Let’s see what happens when he exits the girls locker room with wet hair and a towel around his neck.
I think I smell a sequel:
Yeah sometimes dogs get forced to play on the boys’ team. Where is the outrage about the golden retrievers?
I’m a single issue voter in regards to golden retrievers playing basketball, I assure you I’m outraged enough for everyone.
Thank you FartMaster69, I know I can count on you to support us
I was thinking more
On one hand, poor guy. On the other, if he’s any good the girls’ team is going to sweep whatever competitions they enter.
He should play on all the girls teams, crush it like a total badass, then when conservative parents complain that “a boy is playing on the girls team” everyone can tell them to shut the fuck up because this is the future they always wanted. One with no exceptions or grey areas to speak of.
He should play on all the girls teams, crush it like a total badass, then when conservative parents complain that “a boy is playing on the girls team” everyone can tell them to shut the fuck up because this is the future they always wanted.
He would be killed for doing this.
You say this like conssrvatives would even grasp the facts that they did this. You’re talking about the same group who claims to live their life based on the teachings of Jesus, who cared for all, even the misfortunate. Then they turn around and cheer the dismantling of snap and medicaid with zero irony that it’s what Jesus would want.
It would be pure awesome if he got out there and kicked ass. Teenage me would have fucking run with this whole mess.
“Oh no! PLEASE don’t make me hang out with the cute athletic girls! PLEASE don’t make me share their locker room!”
Kid should waltz into the locker room, casually strip down and shower. Can you imagine the howls of outrage?! Preface the act by telling the girls his plan so none feel harassed. They can all be turned around on the other end of the room, waiting outside, whatever, the perception and headlines are all that counts.
If you get down to it, he only need walk out with wet hair and have the girls scream and point. God I would have had a blast fucking the administration over.
And just what would the school system do about it? “You told me I’m a girl so I’m acting accordingly. Suck it.”
Last year, Laker reportedly won a conference championship for the wrestling team at the school.
I wouldn’t blame him if he doesn’t compete feeling that it’s unfair for everyone else.
