yet another reason for supporting local network only products
Where foes one get local cameras?
Reolink is one for example https://www.reolink.com/gb/ its a HK based (Chinese) company, however they work with local network access only. So they are pretty “safe” to use if you have something like home assistant or something else that can receive their video streams locally. But so far they do not need internet access to function so you can just block their access outside.
They are typically called ‘webcams’.
Then you write or find some open source code to manage things like motion detection, object recognition, permanent vs temporary recording, etc, and run it off your old laptop or a raspberry pi or something.
Unfortunately, that is far beyond most people’s understanding/ability.
Writing it is, but finding an existing project that works isn’t.
I hear https://frigate.video/ is good.
Well then most people get what they pay for.
The problem is that also means the rest of us get centrally surveilled, and those people don’t necessarily have to care
Yep, that is indeed a problem.
Not the kind of problem that can be solved by individual consumer preference choices.
… which was the scope of the original question I was answering.
What you are describing is a massive systemic problem that does not have a simple solution, and arguably, doesn’t have any totally legal solution that would actually work on a long term timeline.
People are too distracted/apathetic, corporations are too powerful, governments are too horny for surveillance.
Not the kind of problem that can be solved by individual consumer preference choices.
I’m not sure you’re right about that. People might choose more private solutions if they were as easy to use. There’s other disadvantages too like proprietary IOT devices accumulating a reputation for spontaneously becoming ewaste. It might not be a total solution but I think the level of accessibility of self managed (or at least end to end encrypted) security cameras matters and is everyone’s problem.
Mine is covered as above (reolink with frigate, no internet for either) which is pretty secure and privite. And yet I still get wat others pay for !!! (Ring with cloud “service” and amazon analisys.
I very much appreciate your link so that other privacy conscious people like us can at least try in our own lives to not be part of the problem, but uh yeah, yep, societies that don’t constantly, actively and effectively fight against mass surveillance, fight for actual privacy rights… uh yep, they end in the panopticon, and… well its harder to get out of a prison after you’ve already built it and live in it, without something analgous to prison riot.
Fact of the matter is yeah, yeah, most other people paid for this, because they were distracted or busy or didn’t listen to all the warnings people have been giving for decades, or drawn in by the ‘neat convenience’ of the tech or whatever.
Its the slow blade that finds its mark, and its quite difficult to un-sever an artery.
Welp, time to start smashing Ring doorbells…
What timing for me to find a project called Thingino and set up my own Frigate server specifically to replace my Ring cameras.
We are so fucked.
If only I had a Amazon Ring product … I already have 4 axes, a chainsaw and a stick welder … I’d be having such a good time now /s (and i’m not even in the USA)
You can have mine 😂
