• SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
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    47 seconds ago

    Projection is when a socialist says it’s bad to give a failed economic system another try.

    The height of human prosperity was under Keynesian economic policy. If we’re giving stuff another spin, why not something that actually worked? Maybe next time just not get suckered by grifters pushing trickle down supply side reaganomics voodoo economic policy. That shit is almost as bad a failure as communism. Almost.

  • Jankatarch@lemmy.world
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    5 hours ago

    To be fair experimenting is good. It’s still better than feudal system. I just wish we experimented with other models once in a while too.

    I will read a sci-fi novel thousands of years into the future with fantasy-magic system, and economic model is still “21st century capitalism but we replaced the word money with credits so it’s future now.”

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      11 minutes ago

      Capitalism exists to replace feudal systems. It’s easier to have kings, and to have a handful of them so they aren’t fighting as much for a single spot, when you convince the average idiot that now they can also be a king and its their own fault that they aren’t(or better yet, another person’s fault as you oppress them both).

      When all the people who had gotten rich by being parasites because of who they were related got afraid they just changed the rules so that it wasn’t ahout blood relation anymore(on paper) but they still had all the money they’d stolen. Nothing functionally changed.

      The entire system “the rich get everything they want and no one gets to stop them” does not have a good version. It’s fucked every single way.

    • masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      2 hours ago

      It’s still better than feudal system.

      According to whom? I wonder what we would see if we were to compare the average amount of labour time feudal peasants had to put in to survive vs. that of the current global proletariat.

      I’d agree that capitalism has been better for some - like, for instance, white ex-peasants who now gets to be members of the (so-called) “middle class” or gets to cosplay as pseudo-nobility in colonised spaces- but it has been an unmitigated disaster for lots of others.

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    5 hours ago

    Best economic system ever, they say. Unlike communism, this is a situation where you can say it has been tried many times throughout history.

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      36 minutes ago

      Why do you tankies always say communism has never been tried? Power hungry people exist no matter the system, and so far…as much as the system is rigged, capitalism has brought a lot more people out of poverty than anything else. Communism has been tried countless times, it just ends up not working because power hungry people exist.

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        rofl you think I’m a tankie for shitting on capitalism!?

        ahahaha way to broadcast how pitifully tiny your understanding is…

        People being lifted out of poverty as an economic test COMPLETELY IGNORES the reality of technological advancement. Way to further demonstrate how you do not know even the major milestones of history, let alone economic history…

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        I’m by no means in support of communism but I think you’re assuming that these systems have been tested in a vacuum. Specifically with regard to communism in the global south where Western capitalist entities act as agents of sabotage in order to secure the people of these nations as a helplessly destitute global underclass. So that their corporations can continue to have access to exploitative labor. Which you and I benefit from in some way shape or form.