• masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    19 days ago

    It’s just a statement of how Judaism actually works.

    So the Xhosa people in my country that also practice circumcision must be (somehow) “Jewish” according to you?

    No, Clyde - that’s not how any religion works. No religion is dependent on the cultural baggage it gets saddled with - next you’ll tell me that genocidal colonialist mass-murder is just how Christianity “actually works.”

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      19 days ago

      When did I say that only Judaism practices general mutilation? I didn’t say that. And yes, that is how Christianity “actually works”. You think Christianity has nothing to do with the brutal oppression happening in the Middle East and Africa? Not to mention the resurgence of Christian Nationalist movements in the western world that are stripping away the rights of women left and right.

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        19 days ago

        When did I say that only Judaism practices general mutilation?

        This you?

        It’s just a statement of how Judaism actually works

        Is that or is that not you pretending that circumcision is (somehow) fundamental to Judaism? Or was that somebody else?

        And yes, that is how Christianity “actually works”.

        Really? Then it should be very easy for you to provide me with proof that there is anything fundamental to the teachings of Christ that calls for colonialist genocide, shouldn’t it?

        I mean, that is what he’s famous for, isn’t he?

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          You’re putting so many words in my mouth I don’t even know where to begin. You’re resorting to really pathetic tactics here to argue against a fantasy in your head. How does saying that genital mitigation is fundamental to Judaism (those are your words, not mine) the same thing as saying that only Jewish people practice genital mutilation? Please explain to me your logic here.

          Then it should be very easy for you to provide me with proof that there is anything fundamental to the teachings of Christ that calls for colonialist genocide, shouldn’t it?

          You very clearly have not read the Bible or you wouldn’t make such an obviously ignorant statement. There is sooooo much genocide in that book.

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            19 days ago

            You’re putting so many words in my mouth

            Again… this you?

            It’s just a statement of how Judaism actually works

            Was that you or was that not you? Do you actually understand the words you, yourself, type?

            You very clearly have not read the Bible

            Which parts of that text are you referring to? The parts that are common to both Judaism, Christianity and Islam?

            Do you want to take a moment to prepare your argument for why all three these religions are fundamentally genocidal?

            I suggest you prepare thoroughly - this might get rough for you.

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              19 days ago

              Again, yes. I did say that Judaism practices genital mutilation. I did not, and never said that they are the only ones who do that. Somehow you are fixated on saying that I said that because it makes me sound stupid and you sound smart. I have now explained this to you three times, in plain English. Goodbye.

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                18 days ago

                Of all the types I engage with on here, you edgelord atheists are always the quickest to cut and run when the arguments get hot.

                Why is that? Is it simply that your soapbox is fundamentally flimsier than others? Or is there some other reason?

                I did not, and never said that they are the only ones who do that.

                Ohhhh… so circumcision is not unique to Judaism, is it now?

                Since you are such an expert in reducing religions to mere cultural practices that aren’t even unique to them, why don’t you do so for all the others, too?

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          19 days ago

          Rabbis suck the blood from the freshly mutilated penises of little boys.

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          It’s just a statement of how Judaism actually works.

          Yes, the former was a factual statement of how this works in Judaism, even today. That is literally how it works. The rabbi cuts off part of an infant’s penis (which is not in any way necessary, except the religion says to), and then puts his mouth on the penis and sucks it until the bleeding stops (because the religion says to). And sometimes as a bonus, the baby even gets herpes from it.

          Can you explain how that user didn’t make a factual statement? They didn’t say Judaism is the only religion to practice circumcision, but described how rabbis (who are Jewish by definition) do it.

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            18 days ago

            Can you explain how that user didn’t make a factual statement?

            Is every religion merely reducible to a cultural practice to you edgelord atheists?

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              Lol, yeah. I’m a 54 year old suburban edge lord grandma.

              Did you actually read my comment, or do factual descriptions of the literal process of this ceremony get your dander up because you know it’s indefensible?

              Just maybe people looking at this from the outside, without a lifetime of indoctrination that normalises things that are otherwise abhorrent, can see that it’s abhorrent?

              Do you think it’s okay to marry 9 year olds? I doubt you do, but why not? Is it because you’re an edge lord against that religious practice? Or is it because it’s a despicable practice that belongs in the past?

              e: it’s cute that you downvoted me within moments when I haven’t downvoted you once in this whole thread. Who’s the edge lord snowflake, again?