It’s just a statement of how Judaism actually works.
So the Xhosa people in my country that also practice circumcision must be (somehow) “Jewish” according to you?
No, Clyde - that’s not how any religion works. No religion is dependent on the cultural baggage it gets saddled with - next you’ll tell me that genocidal colonialist mass-murder is just how Christianity “actually works.”
When did I say that only Judaism practices general mutilation? I didn’t say that. And yes, that is how Christianity “actually works”. You think Christianity has nothing to do with the brutal oppression happening in the Middle East and Africa? Not to mention the resurgence of Christian Nationalist movements in the western world that are stripping away the rights of women left and right.
When did I say that only Judaism practices general mutilation?
This you?
It’s just a statement of how Judaism actually works
Is that or is that not you pretending that circumcision is (somehow) fundamental to Judaism? Or was that somebody else?
And yes, that is how Christianity “actually works”.
Really? Then it should be very easy for you to provide me with proof that there is anything fundamental to the teachings of Christ that calls for colonialist genocide, shouldn’t it?
You’re putting so many words in my mouth I don’t even know where to begin. You’re resorting to really pathetic tactics here to argue against a fantasy in your head. How does saying that genital mitigation is fundamental to Judaism (those are your words, not mine) the same thing as saying that only Jewish people practice genital mutilation? Please explain to me your logic here.
Then it should be very easy for you to provide me with proof that there is anything fundamental to the teachings of Christ that calls for colonialist genocide, shouldn’t it?
You very clearly have not read the Bible or you wouldn’t make such an obviously ignorant statement. There is sooooo much genocide in that book.
Again, yes. I did say that Judaism practices genital mutilation. I did not, and never said that they are the only ones who do that. Somehow you are fixated on saying that I said that because it makes me sound stupid and you sound smart. I have now explained this to you three times, in plain English. Goodbye.
Of all the types I engage with on here, you edgelord atheists are always the quickest to cut and run when the arguments get hot.
Why is that? Is it simply that your soapbox is fundamentally flimsier than others? Or is there some other reason?
I did not, and never said that they are the only ones who do that.
Ohhhh… so circumcision is not unique to Judaism, is it now?
Since you are such an expert in reducing religions to mere cultural practices that aren’t even unique to them, why don’t you do so for all the others, too?
Rabbis suck the blood from the freshly mutilated penises of little boys.
and
It’s just a statement of how Judaism actually works.
Yes, the former was a factual statement of how this works in Judaism, even today. That is literally how it works. The rabbi cuts off part of an infant’s penis (which is not in any way necessary, except the religion says to), and then puts his mouth on the penis and sucks it until the bleeding stops (because the religion says to). And sometimes as a bonus, the baby even gets herpes from it.
Can you explain how that user didn’t make a factual statement? They didn’t say Judaism is the only religion to practice circumcision, but described how rabbis (who are Jewish by definition) do it.
Lol, yeah. I’m a 54 year old suburban edge lord grandma.
Did you actually read my comment, or do factual descriptions of the literal process of this ceremony get your dander up because you know it’s indefensible?
Just maybe people looking at this from the outside, without a lifetime of indoctrination that normalises things that are otherwise abhorrent, can see that it’s abhorrent?
Do you think it’s okay to marry 9 year olds? I doubt you do, but why not? Is it because you’re an edge lord against that religious practice? Or is it because it’s a despicable practice that belongs in the past?
e: it’s cute that you downvoted me within moments when I haven’t downvoted you once in this whole thread. Who’s the edge lord snowflake, again?
All I’m doing is pointing out that every religious person thinks all the other religions are silly, if not grotesque
Their faith+blinkers are a sign that they aren’t capable of taking the next cognitive step, either because they are indoctrinated, stupid, or they think they stand to gain something
All I’m doing is pointing out that every religious person thinks all the other religions are silly,
And your proof of this is… what? Actually, don’t bother -
“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.” - Mahatma Gandhi
A quote by a religious person that doesn’t deserve his hype - but more than adequate to show up your drivel for the insipid dumbassery it actually is.
Their faith+blinkers are a sign that they aren’t capable of taking the next cognitive step,
And what is this “cognitive step” you speak of? Is absolute self-satisfied imbecility as displayed by the likes of Bill Maher and Cristopher Hitchens examples of people who have taken this (supposed) “cognitive step” you seem to think exists?
circumcision is primitive as fuck and should be banned.
So, just for the benefit of all the backseat drivers here, please answer this hypothetical question for me… would you consider yourself “less” Jewish if all Jewish people on the planet decided to ban circumcision tomorrow?
why would it make me less Jewish. at worse one could say it will make future generations less Jewish, but not me, was I won’t be affected.
however, i disagree with that. getting genitals nipped has nothing to do with being Jewish, and in fact choosing to do so on your own free will means that person is more Jewish
Edgelord atheism is pretty stupid, too.
What did they say that was “edgelord”? It’s just a statement of how Judaism actually works.
So the Xhosa people in my country that also practice circumcision must be (somehow) “Jewish” according to you?
No, Clyde - that’s not how any religion works. No religion is dependent on the cultural baggage it gets saddled with - next you’ll tell me that genocidal colonialist mass-murder is just how Christianity “actually works.”
When did I say that only Judaism practices general mutilation? I didn’t say that. And yes, that is how Christianity “actually works”. You think Christianity has nothing to do with the brutal oppression happening in the Middle East and Africa? Not to mention the resurgence of Christian Nationalist movements in the western world that are stripping away the rights of women left and right.
This you?
Is that or is that not you pretending that circumcision is (somehow) fundamental to Judaism? Or was that somebody else?
Really? Then it should be very easy for you to provide me with proof that there is anything fundamental to the teachings of Christ that calls for colonialist genocide, shouldn’t it?
I mean, that is what he’s famous for, isn’t he?
You’re putting so many words in my mouth I don’t even know where to begin. You’re resorting to really pathetic tactics here to argue against a fantasy in your head. How does saying that genital mitigation is fundamental to Judaism (those are your words, not mine) the same thing as saying that only Jewish people practice genital mutilation? Please explain to me your logic here.
You very clearly have not read the Bible or you wouldn’t make such an obviously ignorant statement. There is sooooo much genocide in that book.
Again… this you?
Was that you or was that not you? Do you actually understand the words you, yourself, type?
Which parts of that text are you referring to? The parts that are common to both Judaism, Christianity and Islam?
Do you want to take a moment to prepare your argument for why all three these religions are fundamentally genocidal?
I suggest you prepare thoroughly - this might get rough for you.
Again, yes. I did say that Judaism practices genital mutilation. I did not, and never said that they are the only ones who do that. Somehow you are fixated on saying that I said that because it makes me sound stupid and you sound smart. I have now explained this to you three times, in plain English. Goodbye.
Of all the types I engage with on here, you edgelord atheists are always the quickest to cut and run when the arguments get hot.
Why is that? Is it simply that your soapbox is fundamentally flimsier than others? Or is there some other reason?
Ohhhh… so circumcision is not unique to Judaism, is it now?
Since you are such an expert in reducing religions to mere cultural practices that aren’t even unique to them, why don’t you do so for all the others, too?
and
Yes, the former was a factual statement of how this works in Judaism, even today. That is literally how it works. The rabbi cuts off part of an infant’s penis (which is not in any way necessary, except the religion says to), and then puts his mouth on the penis and sucks it until the bleeding stops (because the religion says to). And sometimes as a bonus, the baby even gets herpes from it.
Can you explain how that user didn’t make a factual statement? They didn’t say Judaism is the only religion to practice circumcision, but described how rabbis (who are Jewish by definition) do it.
Is every religion merely reducible to a cultural practice to you edgelord atheists?
Lol, yeah. I’m a 54 year old suburban edge lord grandma.
Did you actually read my comment, or do factual descriptions of the literal process of this ceremony get your dander up because you know it’s indefensible?
Just maybe people looking at this from the outside, without a lifetime of indoctrination that normalises things that are otherwise abhorrent, can see that it’s abhorrent?
Do you think it’s okay to marry 9 year olds? I doubt you do, but why not? Is it because you’re an edge lord against that religious practice? Or is it because it’s a despicable practice that belongs in the past?
e: it’s cute that you downvoted me within moments when I haven’t downvoted you once in this whole thread. Who’s the edge lord snowflake, again?
I’m not sure what point you think you’re making
All I’m doing is pointing out that every religious person thinks all the other religions are silly, if not grotesque
Their faith+blinkers are a sign that they aren’t capable of taking the next cognitive step, either because they are indoctrinated, stupid, or they think they stand to gain something
And your proof of this is… what? Actually, don’t bother -
A quote by a religious person that doesn’t deserve his hype - but more than adequate to show up your drivel for the insipid dumbassery it actually is.
And what is this “cognitive step” you speak of? Is absolute self-satisfied imbecility as displayed by the likes of Bill Maher and Cristopher Hitchens examples of people who have taken this (supposed) “cognitive step” you seem to think exists?
I’m not going to waste my time on you and your stupid agenda
Why is that? Is it perhaps because this “cognitive step” you speak of only exists in your imagination?
I am Jewish, still sweaty from dancing in Simcha torah.
circumcision is primitive as fuck and should be banned.
if you want one get one when you’re an adult, just make sure you ask not to use any pain control or local anethesia.
So, just for the benefit of all the backseat drivers here, please answer this hypothetical question for me… would you consider yourself “less” Jewish if all Jewish people on the planet decided to ban circumcision tomorrow?
i don’t follow your hypothetical.
I want it to be banned.
why would it make me less Jewish. at worse one could say it will make future generations less Jewish, but not me, was I won’t be affected.
however, i disagree with that. getting genitals nipped has nothing to do with being Jewish, and in fact choosing to do so on your own free will means that person is more Jewish
A lot of edgelord atheists here wants to pretend that circumcision is (somehow) fundamental to Judaism.
which is bullshit,
girls are Jewish without circumcisom.
And Judaism changed so much thought history.
we don’t do animal sacrifices like the bible tells us to.
we aren’t polytheistic like early jews.
So much of Judaism changed over time.
A modern rabbi and a jew from exodus might as well be two completely different religions.
And Judaism refusing to change on this makes it a literal primitive ritual. not as in an offensive term, but a literal term.