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    I do not condone violence against lawful law enforcement activity, of course.

    But I believe in the right to self-defence against unidentified masked thugs with weapons, who are obviously impersonating law enforcement agents and are definitely not ICE agents, because real ICE agents would properly identify themselves. So if someone isn’t identifying themselves as law enforcement with proper visible credentials, they are obviously criminals that needs to be dealt with. 😏

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    21 hours ago

    I condone any and all violence needed to escape masked men trying to kidnap you in the back of a van.

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    Meanwhile Republican representatives are calling for the hanging of their colleagues and crickets is all we can hear

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      The left abandoned any digital space. How’d do you expect people to even be aware about these differences if we all choose to not communicate

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        This feels like an oversimplification – let’s not forget that billionaires have poured untold sums of money into funding right-wing propaganda…and that virtually every major platform is owned and operated by billionaires with right-wing agendas.

        Not only did Elon Musk spend billions on Twitter to make sure only voices he like get platformed, but Youtube has a well documented history of pushing more and more radical right-wing content to users, and Donald Trump just made sure that the one online place where left-wing voices were able to dominate (TikTok) was forced to be sold to his buddy, Larry Ellison.

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          But it is really simple. It’s a numbers game. Where their billions of investments fail is that they can’t ever replicate what we do naturally. If we were organized and actually engaged. I would say their billions are part of the reason we all are so passive. I have no doubt they infiltrated left wing spaces and said things like “uhhh it’s like wrestling pigs” and then promoting places like Lemmy. Left wing at one point did dominate these spaces but this current generation really only focuses on meeting in person twice a year in some city nobody cares about. Again, I wonder why we chose the most energy expensive methods

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                If you think leftists are congregating every 6 months I suspect you have a mistaken understanding of what constitutes “the left”.

                That being said, I suspect you are correct to some degree regarding astroturfing in some communities. I used to see a lot of anti-semitism that was in the form of “Jewish people are all X or all do Y” and that has vaporized which makes me think it might have been an op.

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                  I just been there’s a new protest every six months. One issue gets dropped and a new one crops up. It’s all reactionary. There’s no planning or forethought. We’re just chasing a pig around instead of trying to meet it at where it’s headed. I think much of what the left has done in the past decade has been influenced by the right wing machine more than we’re ready to admit. When you start looking between the lines I think it’s clear as day.

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        You’re on a left leaning digital space, dingus. Go fuck off to corporate social media if that’s what you’re into.

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          Whose here? Seriously. We’re the ones that are least found this place but what good is posting and hanging out here doing. It didn’t take off. Everybody else is on all the digital spaces we left. How do you think that your argument disproves what I said. Hell there aren’t even places here on Lemmy to post half the stuff we should be doing. We’ve been led to a backroom away from where things are actually happening

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            Whose here?

            Our here! That’s why we’re using the fediverse - because it’s p2p. I’m a crypto bro; losing for years before it catches on is fine by me if I prefer the actual software/platform.

            Whoops I just said Luigi Mangione by accident! Maybe I should’ve self-censored for some algorithm.

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      I think we should go further than that. We need a concrete plan on how to deal with these people when this is all over. And we need a plan that completely bypasses a criminally corrupt SCOTUS. So I propose that we simply extradite them to the home nation of their victims. Did you work at an ICE concentration camp and stood by and did nothing as a citizen from Venezuela died due to your mistreatment? Fine. We’re not going to put you on trial. We’ll extradite your ass to Venezuela and let them put you in trial for your crimes. You did kill one of their citizens after all; they’re completely within their legal rights to put you on trial.

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      I seemed to have misplaced my concern for them whenever they keep disappearing people to. Oh well.