• Cocopanda@lemmy.world
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    Spent an hour explaining to my dad that Nick Fuentes was not a leftist. He had a lot of trouble accepting it and refused to accept that it was not trans people.

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    The corporate media immediately ran with a narrative that Charlie Kirk’s assassin was ‘right-wing’

    Let’s check in on that:

    • Kirk’s killer lived with his transgender boyfriend
    • He carved Antifa and LGBTQ slogans into his bullets
    • His family calls him a ‘radical leftist’
    • Top law enforcement officials call him a ‘Left-Wing Activist’
    • His transgender boyfriend ‘hated Christians and conservatives’
    • Co-workers confirm he was consumed with hatred for President Trump and Charlie Kirk
    • He cut down the most powerful conservative voice of a generation

    Now the media and leftists claim no one can ever know the motive!

    No. The Left radicalized him. They weaponized him. And now they’re desperately trying to wash the blood off their hands.

    When all of the evidence is published after court on Tuesday, the truth shall come to light.

    More came out yesterday from family of the boyfriend: A family member of Lance Twiggs, who was the transgender “boyfriend” of Charlie Kirk’s assassin, Tyler Robinson says family cut ties with Twiggs due to his “hostility toward anyone supporting conservative or Christian values” and confirm Robinson lived with him.

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      Roommate isn’t trans. You just have been digesting bullshit again. Do better. Bro was Nick Fuentes supporter.

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      I love how it’s impossible to tell if you’re a republican trying to smear the left or a centrist democrat trying to smear the left.

      The anti-trans hate in the last paragraph doesn’t remove any ambiguity.

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    I held my nose and went and had a look over on r/conservative to check the vibe, and boy-howdy do those people live in a separate universe.

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      My goodness, I only got as far as the first post.

      “Even though all evidence shows he was a radical leftist…”

      What? His parents said he was MAGA, like them. Some anonymous people and some talking heads that only benefit from him being leftist suggested he was leftist. I think I’ll believe his parents.

      And then talking about guns, and included the context of the quote (that gun deaths are a necessity of the second amendment) in which he likens it to driving, and the driving deaths each year from that. And particularly “the dems have no answer to that!” Except having a driver’s license isn’t just handed out to everyone, you have to prove you have the knowledge and training to operate a vehicle, it can be taken away, and there are various levels of licensing and what a person is allowed to drive. Those are, like, the majority of gun control measures we’re looking to apply.

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        The claims about how violent the left is are pretty bizarre as well. Citation needed, folks?

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        Didn’t even need that long. Right-wing outlets (Fox, Daily Mail) are now posting articles about “sources” (which they do not elaborate on) confirming to them that shooter’s roommate was his “transgender partner”.


        The Daily Mail tries very hard to imply a romantic partnership in the first few paragraphs despite no evidence of such, then go on to clarify they don’t know the relationship details after priming the reader.

        Charlie Kirk shooting suspect ‘was living with transgender partner who handed over texts about assassination plot to the police’

        The partner – who shared a three-bedroom apartment with Robinson in Utah – is said to be ‘fully co-operating’ with the FBI.

        The room-mate is understood to have handed over text messages allegedly sent by Robinson after the killing, apparently saying where to retrieve the rifle used in the assassination after it was left in a wooded area.

        A source told Fox News: 'The shooter was living with a transgender man who was transitioning from male to female.

        'The status of their relationship isn’t known. They were friends who enjoyed playing video games together.


        Fox, as usual, doesn’t give a shit about waiting for more evidence and just says what they think would get the most engagement:

        Charlie Kirk’s alleged assassin lived with transgender partner who is now cooperating with FBI: Officials

        Bureau officials confirmed that Tyler Robinson, 22, was in a “romantic relationship” with the unnamed person, who is a male transitioning to a female, and that they shared an apartment in Saint George, Utah. Those FBI officials told Fox News Digital that Robinson’s partner is fully cooperating with the FBI’s investigation.

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          Fox, as usual, doesn’t give a shit about waiting for more evidence and just says what they think would get the most engagement

          Not even that. They know the first message people hear gets stuck in people’s heads, even when contradicted and retracted afterwards. If you want to set a narrative, get the message out there first disregarding any facts, especially when you can use some weasel words to dress it up to avoid any legal consequences.

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        Most are already primed to just assume that way without evidence. There isn’t a version of reality conceivable to them where they’re making the world a worse place

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      Looks more likely to be confirmed in the other direction. His parents are maga people, but it’s looking pretty likely that the shooter isn’t.

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        Yeah, there isn’t enough evidence to definitively prove it either way, and much of the evidence out there is tenuous or based on anonymous sources or tweets.

        I agree that the claim he’s on the left is more plausible.

        I don’t think we’ll know for sure unless he says something.

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      Is bluemaga a version of the American Democratic Party with similar christo-fascist values and aspirations?

      I think I understand…but don’t want to assume, so please extrapolate…

      This is the first I’ve heard of this.

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        Bluemaga refers to the Bluedog dems who take their marching orders from the DNC the same way regular maga take theirs from Trump.

        They’re the libs who were telling us to shut up and pledge to vote blue in the month following Oct 7th, instead of joining us to tell the dems to stop facilitating a genocide. In 2020 they celebrated how the dems were going to stop Trump’s moronic border policy, and in 2024, they celebrated how Biden and Kamala secured the border.

        A subset of BluMaga are BluAnon, they believe Biden was drugged before the debate he did poorly in, that Trump staged his own assassination, and dozens of other wacky conspiracies to explain away the dems sucking shit without accepting that they’re both malicious and incompetent.

        The term has been floating around since 2020, but I really noticed the weird reverse loyalty thing going on in 2016 when saying “hey, Hillary might not win, or at least is going to do much worse with this “america is already great you’re doing better than ever”” messaging would get you attacked and insulted.

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      Somewhat amusing because conservatives are generally stronger, more gun training, more guns, and more ammo. It wouldn’t be a very long war, but I say we might as well go for it and let the chips fall where they may.