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    Be careful, celebrating too much will get your comment taken down by mods.

    Can’t be happy about dead Nazis.

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        The news already brightened my day.

        He’s literally called for attacks on trans people as well as other marginalized groups. He was one of many who were laughing at assaults on liberals and the left. He and others have actively caused harm and death.

        Fuck’em. I won’t “directly” call for violence, but I will engage in shaudenfruede. They can taste their own medicine.

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          He’s literally called for attacks on trans people as well as other marginalized groups.

          Genuinely asking so I don’t have to wade through a cesspool… Do you have some sources I can scour through?

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            In 2024, Kirk cited Leviticus 20:13 (“If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them”) as “God’s perfect law when it comes to sexual matters”.[105]
            
            Kirk argued against gender affirming care for transgender people, saying, “We must ban trans-affirming care — the entire country. Donald Trump needs to run on this issue”, according to Media Matters.
            

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Kirk

            copying a different comment, but there ya go. there are absolutely more examples to look for too, but i am not going through a dead nazi’s history rn, too busy having a good time.

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          literally went out and got some cabernet sauvignon! i’m no wine connoisseur, but i felt like i needed something to mark the occasion

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        He’s dead. I hated him but I can’t cheer.

        This is too violent, too awful for the country I grew up in. I am sad not because I give a shit about a dirtbag like Kirk, but that we are now losing Rule of Law and the social contract. We are falling as a nation, and this is just one more domino in that process. They made this world for us but they’re not the only ones who are going to suffer from it.

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          but that we are now losing Rule of Law and the social contrac

          We lost that when we failed to jail Trump after his felony convictions, which came after the failure to convict him in the senate of supporting an insurrection.

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          This is what happens when violent and hateful rhetoric is allowed to be aired freely under the guise of “good Christian values”, while voices calling for checks notes being nice to other people are silenced. We all know that sowing division absolutely rakes in the profits, so do the math on who benefits from that.

          This is not a right or left issue. This is the tolerant refusing to tolerate the intolerant after nothing else has worked.

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          but that we are now losing Rule of Law and the social contract.

          The last chance to recover this was gone when Biden failed to uphold it against Trump and his followers after Jan. 6. Now Trump is back and throwing the last vestiges of law and order away. You need to accept that we’re not going to vote our way back to normalcy.

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            Absolutely agree, every single person involved in that coup attempt should have been paraded around in orange jumpsuits and shackles and publicly shamed before being locked away for however many years traitors get in prison.

            The next slap in America’s dying face was the Supreme Court granting our king, I mean president, full immunity for whatever the fuck he wants to do.

            Now that people are starting to realize we don’t have a system anymore, we’re going to see more and more violence as the country continues to decay.

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      Nah. We’re focusing on removing things that are in direct contrast to instance-wide rules (directly advocating violence).

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          You literally said a human being deserved to be shot in the throat in front of everyone for saying words. How far is your head up your own ass.

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            Kirk literally said kids should watch public executions, so arguably, he was just providing an example.

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            I know Hitler comparisons are kinda stale, but Hitler never actually killed anyone (even during his WW1 military service apparently). He just said words and then other people killed for him. The same is true for plenty of dictators and politicians that indirectly caused the deaths of thousands or millions. Words have power.

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              It was true then, and it’s still true now.

              Inciting violence is OK if you’re a conservative.

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            As he was shot, he was suggesting that transgender people are more likely to become mass shooters, which is a dangerous lie that the current administration is itching to use to remove 2A rights and potentially institutionalize/forcibly detransition transgender people. There are also likely transgender people to be murdered themselves as part of the hatred that he is participating in whipping up.

            I do hope that it wasn’t a trans person. But yes, I am happy that he is dead. When Donald Trump dies, I will be happy. If Alex Jones dies I will be happy. These people are actively destructive to society. They chose to dedicate their lives to harming others. People who harm others should not be surprised when that is turned the other way.

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              I mean, devil’s advocate here but that wording yes it does. I imagine if it was worded more as “I’m happy it happened” than “this should happen to anyone who does this” it wouldn’t count as inciting. Though that being said I have no clue, just using my powers of empathy to see if I can understand the thing. Something that a certain someone didn’t use.

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                It’s too bad Charlie Kirk will never be able to attempt to feel empathy, not that he ever would have.

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              This way lies madness.

              Yes, he was a human being. With all of the associated rights, responsibilities, and various other baggage that comes attached to that. Dehumanization of the other is exactly what leftists are upset at conservatives over, and is what leads to situations like present day Palestine and Israel, where people are killed en masse with no remorse. The IDF is reportedly having fun murdering civilians. The only way that happens is that they are taught these Palestinians are not people, they are animals. This is what it leads to.

              Was Charlie Kirk a piece of shit scum fucking loser who deserved exactly what he got? Yeah, absolutely. I will not shed a single tear over this man’s passing and I wish they shot him an additional time in the knees first.

              But he was also a human being. No matter how disgusting our opponent we should not stoop to dehumanization. If we must kill them we must kill with a heavy heart. To do otherwise is to dehumanize yourself.

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                There is no need for heavy heart on justified killing, he was actively speaking in favor of limiting other peoples freedom and spreading hate all around him where ever he went. Only thing he was good at was deflecting questions and points that went against he’s believes. Hell, he’s legacy will most likely be used to fuel the hate even more.

                We should not feel bad about the death of some purely evil people. The world will be a lot better place without him. Sure dehumanization should not be extended to civilians or masses of people but rather on some individual people who are full of hate and evil to the core.

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                they dehumanize themselves. and everyone else, but thats besides the point. i was raised by garbage to be garbage and i didn’t turn out like them. they could all choose to be better than what they currently are, if they don’t they are the ones choosing to make themselves out to be less than. they dehumanize others because of inherent traits, thats vastly different than what the wizard or any other lefty did or does.

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          I don’t understand why they are so careful, no ones taking any of the social media sites with nonstep threats of violence against liberals all day, leftists always cater to the right to be nice while the right steps on them

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            Exactly. I’m tired of taking the high road or “being the better person” while monsters like him actively call for my death on a near daily basis.

            This trans bitch is going to get a cake and put “The only good nazi…” on it.

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            Nice people still believe that tolerating the intolerance works.

            It fucking doesn’t.

            My only regret is that it took me decades to actually understand that. I always believed that being nice and compassionate to others, no matter how much they hate would eventually woke out. It doesn’t.

            Now I tell cunts to eat a dick immediately, no more wasting time being nice.

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      Is the censorship that bad here? I switched to this platform because reddit is handing out bans for everything these days and tought this place is more free.

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        it is. generally. world isn’t the best, i specifically sub to different news communities than the ones on world, but it beats reddit. not that that is hard to do.

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      You have to be massively desensitized and emotionally fucked to see a human being get shot in the throat in front of dozens of deeply traumatized people and want to gloat. Good on the mods, I don’t want people wallowing in violent fascist (ohhh is assassinating people and political violence left now??) self-radicalization in my communities, either.

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        Nah, you just have to have been a target of his invitations to others to commit violence against you.

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        I’ve never wished for a man’s death, but I’ve read some obituaries with great pleasure… Or something like that.

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        violence is politically neutral, my guy. it can be used towards good or bad ends. good as demonstrated here.

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          POLITICS IS NOT ABOUT GOOD VS EVIL WHAT IS THIS BULLSHIT HOW OUT OF FUCKING TOUCH DO YOU HAVE TO BE TO SEE POLITICAL VIOLENCE IN YOUR OWN FUCKING COUNTRY AND GO OH GOOD THIS LEADS GOOD FUCKING PLACES BECAUSE THIS IS GOOD TRIUMPHING OVER EVIL

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            Well, us finally killing a shit ton of Nazis in the 1940s lead to a better world. How is killing fascists today not going to lead to a better world today?