• ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.oneEnglish
    865·
    2 days ago

    Then the fasciast shoots the Marxist and Ancharist, then proceeds to beat the Liberal to death.

    Liberal surpised Pickachu face

  • The2b@lemmy.vgEnglish
    958·
    3 days ago

    Correct, liberalism is a center-right ideology. They are literally closer on the political spectrum to fascists than leftists.

    • ZILtoid1991@lemmy.worldEnglish
      31·
      1 day ago

      Depends on. So called “Ur liberalism” was the foundation of a lot of our moral systems on the left, but then we had to realize capitalism have weaponized early representative democracies, so a great split began, and after some conservatives started to call themselves “classical liberals”, a steep rightward shift begun, especially with all the moral panics about communism. I remember I had to vote Fidesz, because I got told that the liberal party masquerading as social democrats called MSZP wants to bring back communism and nix all intellectual jobs they can, because “worker’s party”. Meanwhile, Fidesz nixed all intellectual jobs they could, because they want to build a “work based society”. Then all the old people I hated who only liked “communism” because of the authoritarianism suddenly became Fidesz voters, some even celebrated the “return of communism to Hungary”, because for them communism was equal with Stahanovist work moralism, which the capitalists in our country have appropriated to themselves. Get ready to work for “at least he works even if it’s not much money” style praises, which makes me wish hell was not only real, but that these people had a special place there, very deep down.

    • jimmy90@lemmy.worldEnglish
      211·
      1 day ago

      marxist is stuck in an election with a liberal and a fascist and an anarchist

      marxist votes for self and gives election to fascist

      marxist doesn’t care because their purpose was to destroy the nice liberal state they live in to give their life purpose and make their larp universe real

      ps. anarchist never mattered

      • skisnow@lemmy.caEnglish
        8·
        22 hours ago

        It astonishes me just how hard the army of votescolds are pushing at the moment, like they’re “hey guys this isn’t the time to reform Democracy or the Democratic Party, the election is only 39 months away! Shut up and get in line!”

        • frostedtrailblazer@lemmy.zipEnglish
          1·
          13 hours ago

          I’m all in on trying to reform tbh. If we want to do it right though, we need to change the voting system on in each state, like Alaska and Maine did.

          Having an alternative voting system is how we can get more candidates like Mamdani in office, since we don’t have to worry about vote splitting between our preferred candidate and the incumbent.

          First Past the Post voting is the predominant method for how voting is done in the US. It’s a winner takes all system where you can only pick one of the candidates on the ballot. I feel alternative voting makes way more sense since you can pick your preferred candidate(s) first and then have some back up options you’re personally okay with winning. We end up with so many do nothing incumbents since people worry about splitting their vote so much and letting the worst candidate win, due to the flaw of the system.

          Let’s get the word out about alternative voting systems and organizations that promote them. Get involved locally can help scale it up as well. NYC uses an alternative voting system for instance.

          Underrepresented BlueSky Social Media Accounts:

          Involvement Links:

      • Dale@lemmy.worldEnglish
        352·
        2 days ago

        Liberals will always put corporate interests ahead of the rights of the people. Of course they’d rather have happy people and happy corpos, but when push comes to shove they are always more willing to hand the keys to fascists than socialists. At least the fascists believe in capitalism.

        • Vlado@feddit.orgEnglish
          323·
          2 days ago

          Liberalism has nothing to do with corporations. These are two totally independents axis. One one you have liberalism and authoritarianism On the other you have socialism and capitalism. You can have liberal socialist and you can have liberal capitalist. People love to conflate these things based on the popular parties in their country. But just because there are opposing parties with some specific economic/social viewpoint combination in one country, it doesn’t mean that they make a template how it works.

          • Dale@lemmy.worldEnglish
            30·
            2 days ago

            Dearest, no. The axis are economic left vs right (private vs public ownership) and authoritarian vs libertarian. Libertarian being “I can do whatever I want” and authoritarian being “you can only do what I say.” Libertarianism is distinct from liberalism which is a political ideology invented by John Locke which believes free market capitalism is the best economic system except that it needs to be regulated to protect consumers (think the FDA). Before Donald Trump and for most of American history, both parties were liberal parties.

            • Vlado@feddit.orgEnglish
              216·
              2 days ago

              I’m not sure what you’re trying to imply here. Are you saying that it’s not correct? Care to explain why?

              • Michael@slrpnk.netEnglish
                4·
                1 day ago

                Liberalism is not a libertarian ideology. Look it up - and the pairing on the axis is libertarianism and authoritarianism.

                • Michael@slrpnk.netEnglish
                  22·
                  1 day ago

                  For its flaws, it sure does more service than you let on. ML folks like to make a big stink about it, same with liberals. It exposes authoritarianism and right and right-leaning ideologies for what they are.

                  What do tool do you prefer to visualize political ideologies?

                • Vlado@feddit.orgEnglish
                  117·
                  2 days ago

                  Honestly I don’t care for kids memes from the internet about a compass. Just because there are kids creating memes, it doesn’t make it incorrect. What is more illiterate is conflating things that don’t have anything in common just because “that’s how it always is” just because that’s how it works in your country.

                  Also there’s actually a third very popular axis that tends to be conflated with the rest based on random thoughts, and that’s progresivism vs conservativism. People also like to say stuff like “all liberals are automatically progressive” (and vice versa) in the same way as the original post did.

          • leftytighty@slrpnk.netEnglish
            19·
            2 days ago

            Capitalism is very tied into Liberalism, private property ownership and free markets are Liberal ideas. You’d have to bend them quite out of shape to arrive at socialist liberalism.

            The fact is that some individual rights have to be sacrificed for the collective good, and that includes private ownership over productive assets.

            You have to oppress oppressors, you have to resist violence with violence. You have to take things away from people who took things away from those they exploited.

            • Vlado@feddit.orgEnglish
              111·
              2 days ago

              We have a major political party which is liberal, progressive and socialist. We also have a major political party which is liberal, progressive and capitalist. We also have a semi-major political party which is liberal, conservative and capitalist. And we also have major socalist conservative authoritarian party. No bending out of shape was necessary.

              • leftytighty@slrpnk.netEnglish
                15·
                2 days ago

                Socialism as in giving people social security is different from socialism as in socialist economy.

                • алсааас [she/they]@lemmy.dbzer0.comOPMEnglish
                  13·
                  2 days ago

                  One is “social” “democracy”, the other is the inalienable human right to food, health, housing, education, work, rest etc. through an economy owned/controlled by the working people. An economy where the parasites as a class have not only been liquidated, but are actively suppressed from reemerging.

  • Commiunism@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    58·
    3 days ago

    Reminds me of Romania right now where the centrist candidate that won the presidential elections (and tons of people on here celebrated because it wasn’t a reactionary right-winger) refused to ban and straight up endorsed legionary and fascist organizations to “fight communism”

    Article in Romanian, though using machine translation will get the general idea across

    • Bloomcole@lemmy.worldEnglish
      11·
      2 days ago

      “won” after they illegally anulled the results and didn’t allow the winner to take part.
      All OK for the EU when things don’t go their way.
      Not that I want those fascists to win but yet another example of the hypocrites from the EU with their imaginary ‘democratic values’

  • jsomae@lemmy.mlEnglish
    241·
    2 days ago

    Only if the fascist happens to be in charge right now, because that’s the law. smh.

    • leftytighty@slrpnk.netEnglish
      14·
      2 days ago

      They won the election fair and square, we should have voted harder. People didn’t vote against the fascist hard enough. Don’t worry though we’ll vote harder against the even worse fascist next time. If we do this enough times there might even be someone to vote for rather than against, the trend has to reverse sometime.

      Ok Google set an alarm for four years.

  • Geobloke@aussie.zoneEnglish
    17·
    2 days ago

    I guess the Marxist would keep the gun, but shoot the roof and the anarchist would shoot the roof to name a point?

    • ZILtoid1991@lemmy.worldEnglish
      74·
      1 day ago

      Depends on. If they’re a “Marxist-Leninist” (read: Stalinist), they would shoot the liberal and the anarchist, then try to negotiate with the fascist. It they’re an actual Marxist, they would shoot the fascist and the liberal, then try to negotiate with the anarchist.

          • BrainInABox@lemmy.mlEnglish
            21·
            14 hours ago

            Yeah, and before that they tried to negotiate with the liberals to team up against the fascists, but the liberals preferred the fascists.

      • Wolf@lemmy.todayEnglish
        6·
        1 day ago

        What’s there to negotiate? Once the fascists and the liberals are out of the way the Marxists and Anarchists can start a stateless society based on mutual cooperation. It’s a win-win.

  • JoYo@lemmy.mlEnglish
    37·
    2 days ago

    No surprise that the marxist and anarchist are unarmed.

    • алсааас [she/they]@lemmy.dbzer0.comOPMEnglish
      171·
      2 days ago
      1. Only post socialist memes

      That refers to funny image macros and means that generally videos and screenshots are not allowed. Exceptions include explicitly humorous and short videos, as well as (social media) screenshots depicting a funny situation, joke, or joke picture relating to socialist movements, theory, societal issues, or political opponents. Examples would be the classic case of humorous Tumblr or Twitter posts/threads. (and no, agitprop text does not count as a meme)

            • stray@pawb.socialEnglish
              7·
              1 day ago

              “X has two bullets” is an established joke format. That the liberal gives the gun to the fascist is ironic in that it subverts the usual formula of someone being shot twice, which is itself based in irony, as one would originally expect two people to be shot. The fact that it’s an accurate metaphor for actual politics is necessary; if it weren’t we’d all think the joke doesn’t make sense.

              • Monument@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
                16·
                1 day ago

                It’s not funny, though.

                It’s just stupid. Top to bottom, left to right. There’s no angle that is funny or enlightened.

                The twist is lame. The original premise isn’t funny. Certainly not ‘funnier’ than the propaganda the premise is trying to deliver.

                The whole fucking thing is just a Schrödinger’s asshole setup with a different sort of joke than we’re used to with those setups.
                If you buy into the agitprop, it reinforces purity testing and infighting, while undermining solidarity between people who could find common ground.
                And if you don’t, then it’s just a joke, bro.

  • Vlado@feddit.orgEnglish
    926·
    2 days ago

    Ah right, liberals, the bane of everyone’s existence. Nazis are already blaming liberals for everything, so it was just a matter of time until anarchists (or whatever OP likes to be) start doing the same.