Benjamin Marcelo Guerrero Cruz had just turned 18 and was about to start his senior year.

  • GuyFawkes@midwest.social
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    2 months ago

    If they’re masked we need to start calling them “alleged” ICE agents, since they really could just be jack booted thugs without authority kidnapping people.

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      Bingo. They’re not wearing anything to ID them with, so for all we know they’re just the scary cartel guys we keep getting told are ALL OVER the US. Call 911. Get the SWAT involved if you can - “hey a bunch of guys in masks with rifles are shoving people into vans over here and I’m worried they will start shooting” shouted, panicky, into the phone will get a lot more interesting and hard to sort out police response than “I wanted to check if ICE is out here”. Frustrate the system in any way you can.

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      2 months ago

      I gotta believe people are calling the police and I sorta wish they would check with 911. I mean I see a bunch of guys jump out and grab someone and im going to be like. hold shit. This idea that people are going to assume the wierd unmarked special forces cosplay guys are ice instead of gangbangers make no sense to me coming from a big city. I still remember walking down an alley when a car goes by and stops all of a sudden and four unmarked guys get out with bullet proof vests and equipment belts. One guy tells me to stop. I turned around with my hands up but kept on walking backwords toward the major road and yelled im going to need to see some idea or im assuming they are gangbangers. They brought out id and yeah they were cops but like im not obeying some heavily offensively equipped stranger and I was ready to book to the closest shop to ask them to call 911. This is just so crazy.

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          1 month ago

          Nothing really happened. They questioned me and that was it. The big deal was they are approaching me in a group telling me to stop with nothing to indicate they were actually police until they showed me id.

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      1 month ago

      The agents are just working on orders, the leaders are the ones that need to be stopped. No leaders no orders, no ice bullshit

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        1 month ago

        “I was just following orders” is not a valid defense and you definitely shouldn’t use it to defend ICE

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        1 month ago

        Aside from the rather obvious point that “just following orders” is not a valid defense, only bigots and sadists join ice. Not one of them wouldn’t benefit society by permanently relocating underground.