Several hundred people gathered for a pro-Ukraine rally in Anchorage, Alaska, where U.S. President Donald Trump and Russian leader Vladimir Putin are set to meet Friday.

Archived version: https://archive.is/20250815082113/https://www.politico.eu/article/alaska-vladimir-putin-donald-tump-summit-ukraine-flags-protest-war-criminal/


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    Wait, he’s COMING TO THE US?

    WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK I MISSED THAT?

    He hasn’t been to the US since 2015, shortly after the first invasion of Ukraine. This is an unprecedented opportunity for someone to fix the problem that is Putin.

    Undoubtedly he will have his own security detail. But he would not be allowed to meet Trump without interacting with other Americans. Everytime an opportunity to remove the cancer is missed, it will keep growing. Putin IS NOT immortal. The collapse of the Kremlin is inevitable. And it will not be pleasant. But we should at least do it before the rest of the world tears it’s apart because of his psychological warfare.

    I know, big words coming from someone who didn’t fly to Alaska to do something about it, but it’s not exactly something outside of that very inner circle of people can do anything about. And yeah, it would be a suicide mission unless you had access to some delayed acting chemical or biological weapon.

    But I can’t be the only one who sees the alternate future in which Putin is gone. So what if I’m not around to see it. The Russian Federation as it exists today is doomed, more so than the USA is (which is arguably still possible, yet incredibly unlikely, to do).

    Frankly, this is yet another example of treasonous actions by this regime.

    Edit: lmfao I woke the hexbear lmfao

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      This one shitty regional capitalist is the source of all evil in the liberal mind, and it’s turned you all into borderline religious fanatics ranting about the devil . What are you going to do when he keels over in like 10 years and nothing changes? I know, I know, asking this question makes me a Russian spy, or a bot, or mentally ill… whatever you need me to be so I can be written off as less than human because I don’t share your desire for nuclear Armageddon.

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      We gonna say the same thing for Biden, Trump, Macron, netanyahu, Scholz, Obama (for Yemen), Bush (Iraq and Afghanistan), Jimmy Carter (supporting Pol Pot), or literally every other leader of “western democratic governments”?

      This photo is from almost 2 years ago by the way. You’re more likely to die as a child in Gaza than a Nazi in Ukraine, but yes Putin is the root of all evil.

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              You guys always, without fail, fall back on hollow quips whenever you’re asked questions of a practical nature, because your ideology is not built for answering practical questions, it’s built for justifying and mystifying the problems it causes. It’s that combination of smugness and intellectual incuriosity that’s really going to do you in.

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                That’s absolutely fascinating how you turned my obviously hollow quip into a tirade about my ideology based on a comment of ridding the world of obvious evil. I finally remembered why so many instances defederated you guys. You don’t have a serious position to take. It’s just word vomit meant to waste people’s time and make you feel more secure about your attachment to authoritarians.

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                  That’s absolutely fascinating

                  In what way? What do you find fascinating about it? Say what you mean instead of hiding behind redditor cliches.

                  a tirade

                  My comment was all of two sentences long. If that’s what you consider a tirade, you’re gonna hate what comes next. Of course, we both know the actual reason you chose that word is because you want to paint any disagreement with your self-evidently correct ideas as coming from a place of mental instability. Call me hysterical or delusional next.

                  ridding the world of obvious evil

                  This is purely subjective and doesn’t actually mean anything. Good and evil are stories for explaining the world to children, adults understand that reality operates on cause and effect. And even on your own terms, you haven’t defined evil, so how can it have any meaning that can be shared between us. Nazi Germany and Israel were/are also “ridding the world of obvious evil” from their perspective, am I supposed to just take that nonsense justification at face value because like them, you assume that to be sane and rational, a person must share your prejudices?

                  You don’t have a serious position to take

                  This is the black hole at the center of the galaxy calling the sun black. Here’s a quick summary of the serious position we don’t have, courtesy of one of the lengthy essays we don’t write:

                  A Marxist understanding of capitalism leads to anti-imperialism. Anti-imperialism is understood by detractors as a simple rhetorical dressing over simplistic heuristics like “reflexive anti-americanism,” “history repeats itself,” and “the military-industrial complex needs contracts,” but all of these are reductive. Marxists understand that human political leadership in the imperial periphery, whether enlightened or tyrannical, will only be antagonized by empire for one single possible reason: it is getting in the way of market penetration. This is phrased succinctly by Kevin Dooley when criticizing Noam Chomsky’s support for a military alliance between the Kurds and the USA in Syria: “The difference between [Chomsky’s] position and a hard-line anti-imperialist position isn’t tactical. What he’s arguing is simply a violation of anti-imperialist principles based on a fundamentally different understanding of what can drive the empire to act in the world.” [16]

                  The accusation that anti-imperialists are unconcerned with human rights deserves a sharp rebuke. The USA was born of slavery and genocide, dropped atomic bombs as a matter of political brinkmanship, imported Nazi scientists and installed war criminals like Klaus Barbie and Nobusuke Kishi around the world to defend and advance anti-communist positions [17], and enthusiastically supports gruesome butcherers today. Simply put, Capital has destroyed innumerable countries and murdered hundreds of millions directly and indirectly. It is precisely a concern for the rights of humans that should make one immediately skeptical of any humanitarian posturing by Capital. Anti-imperialism not only means support for the important pro-social projects of states like Cuba, Vietnam, and China; it also means critical support for non-socialist states such as Iran and Russia. Critical support acknowledges that, though instituting various indefensible policies, enemies of empire are not being antagonized because of said policies. The only thing that can drive empire to act in the world is capital accumulation.

                  You are coping by telling yourself that one of the most widespread ideologies on the planet, with a century and a half of theory behind it and multiple revolutions up on the scoreboard, has no serious positions. It’s peak solipsism: you can’t understand it or won’t bother to, so it must be gibberish.

                  Authoritarian

                  What, in your own words, does this term mean? I’ve had this conversation a thousand times, and nobody has been able to provide an answer that doesn’t just boil down to “any use of authority that I personally dislike”. Maybe you’ll be the first.

                  Look man, my problem with liberals, aside from the support for nazis and genocide, is that you have a static, shoebox diorama view of the world. Things simply are, good guys are good guys and bad guys are bad guys, and that’s that. It’s very similar to the more right wing liberals who think that “criminals” are just a group of people that spawn in dark alleys like a video game, and not their own former neighbors driven to desperation by ruthless capitalist plundering. You like that Criminal Bad Guy Luigi, right? I do.

                  A Marxist view on the other hand, a materialist view, conceives of the world and all it’s parts as a machine in motion, each component affecting others and being affected. Vladimir Putin and the Russian Federation did not crawl out of a molten crack in the ground: the US empire created the government and installed him at its head to facilitate the shock doctrine that allowed corporate entities to strip the very profitable flesh from the bones of the former USSR. Western communists did not fall out of a coconut tree: we were liberals who believed sincerely in the stated values of liberalism and could not look past it’s rank hypocrisy, violence and racism. I’m not a mindless hostile NPC the game put here to challenge you dawg, I’m you from the future.

        • Utter_Karate [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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          Obviously, but they seem to be calling for a US government employee to do this during a peace conference where the US is supposed to guarantee his safety. Even some liberals (though not all apparently) could spot one or two complications that might arise from this and I would love to hear in their own words what tangible positive change they would expect from this.

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        Ok I’m NGL what summoned you guys? I mean it’s pretty impressive that 8 comments from hexbear pop out of nowhere when I mention the opportunity to take out one of the world’s worst sociopaths that was a large reason behind Trump’s first success and if I had to guess, his second success. And not to mention this guy is actively leading ethnic cleansing in Ukraine, has had many of his enemies killed in specific ways to send a message, killed his only real political opponent, sucked the wealth from the entirety of the Russian people, and has caused at least 1,000,000 men to march to their deaths in the invasion of Ukraine.

        And man, I’m just getting started.

        Why would you people bother to defend Putin of all the options out there?

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            Perfidy?

            Never heard of him. But why defend putin? Because it ended up on your front page? That seems like a really bad reason.

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              Perfidy, in the context of international relations, is to lure a delegation from an opposed faction under false pretenses of negotiations in order to kill them. Perfidious actors do not generally receive future delegations. Noone on hexbear particularly likes Putin but we’re not so stupid as to attribute every act or the Russian Federation to his own personal malice, nor to think that his replacement if he were killed would differ significantly in policy. If the US went through with your hairbrained plot the Russian advance would continue apace and the US would be regarded everywhere as an even less trustworthy partner than before. ‘Do not murder the negotiators’ is a pretty important rule in the ‘rules based international order’ you liberals are so proud of.

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                I don’t know if you’ve been paying attention, but we haven’t exactly been living in a world with ‘rules based international order’.

                Also why do you keep calling me a liberal? I haven’t exactly voiced any liberal statements?

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            But you realize you’re defending Putin. The Thief in Chief of the Kremlin, probably the most successful Kleptocracy in history.

            The guy who had apartment buildings in Russia bombed, killing 300ish Russians in 1999? Who then used it as pretext to invade Dagestan and trigger the 2nd Chechen War that killed 80,000 Chechen civilians?

            Then of course, once he got presidency, he retained power to this day?

            And let’s not skip over his FIRST invasion of Ukraine which he annexed and turned into Crimea?

            And if we want to get to a more personal level, the fact that he humiliated his wife once he rose to prominence by spending his time with “dancers” shows what kind of person he is outside of the international arena too.

            That Putin? Or do you need more?

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              Even pretending putin is in charge of the biggest “kleptocracy” is a fuckin joke compared to america. Jesus, you guys would really benefit from a book besides harry potter

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    protest ‘war criminal hanging out here’

    are they also going to protest:

    • Eielson Air Force Base
    • Elmendorf Air Force Base
    • Clear Air Force Station
    • Fort Richardson
    • Fort Wainwright
    • Fort Greely