I’ll have you know France deserves at least half the blame for most of those lines.
They’re getting kicked out of Africa too. Now leaving Senegal. And also blame the US obviously since they took over most of the imperialism and scumbaggery around the globe.
Yes, all of the empires were shit in their own way. Just ask someone who wasn’t born noble.
Then the USA said hold my Mountain Dew. And the endless war on terror started.
Ain’t nobody holdin’ my dew 'cept me, pardner.
A third
Let’s settle on three sevenths… Damn it we’re doing it again!
Why is their three sevenths bigger than our three sevenths‽
“Why is no one getting along? I specifically requested you get along.”
Narrator: They did not, in fact, request anyone get along.
The beatings will continue until morale improves!!
puts their cup down
What’s the matter with those people?
continues drinking their tea
How? Did they have a straw?
You must be one of those people behind those silly lines on the map the English drew
Israel+Palestine, Pakistan+India+Bangladesh, any more I’m forgetting?
are you talking british colonism from 17th century until the collapse of the othman empire??
You’re missing about maybe 50 more countries I’d say.
Turkey and Kurds, Syria and Kurds, Iraq and Kurds, Iran and Kurds.
Lebanon i’d say is a shared blame of UK and France.
Ireland proper and Northern Ireland
Sudan, Somalia, Lybia
Africa.
Wasn’t that Germany? They decided to be a middleman deciding which territories should belong to who, right?
Yes, times were so much better when the Ottoman Empire ruled and oppressed the Middle East and beyond. Truly an empire of peace.
The Mughals were also welcomed in India as friendly visitors, as we all know.
The issues would have never happened if they hadn’t colonized India to begin with. It’s more nuanced (and interesting) for the exit.
Pakistan wanted to not be a part of India with Muhammad Ali Jinnah pushing the two nations theory. The reverse was less true but the Indian leadership under Nehru reluctantly agreed to the split. That’s despite the British best effort to meditate because in places like Kashmir and Bangladesh the separation would be hard and economicly ruinous for the area. Not to mention displacing millions of peoples
Viceroy Mountbatten rushed the exit out of india. And the Radcliffe line (the hastly drawn border between the two sides) was a complete mess but also a result of being rushed in 5 weeks. Both this led to a horrible refugee crisis/mutual genocide. But a longer British stay would have been difficult with all sides pushing for their exit and fear of mutiny in the army whith the recent Indian navy mutiny of 1946
All that to say stuff if complicated. But border ends up shity like you said. We could have a whole debate about how much this messy independence is to blame for the multiple conflict between india and Pakistan and the Bangladesh genocide
As we all know wars, conflicts, conquest, exploitation, and oppression were totally unknown to the rest of the world before Europeans exported them worldwide. Coincidentally Europeans also removed all supplies of agency from the rest of humanity and hoarded it in the imperial core.
Wait am I coming off as sea-lioning?
Hi. Sorry if this didn’t come across, but my point was specifically that the local independent movement had agency and it wasn’t just a top-down colonial mismanagement. The Empire can obviously take a large part of the blame here for being here to begin with and having a rushed exit. But the conflicting Pakistani and Indian view had a lot of influence in the resulting chaotic border.
it was Hindu, Sikh and Muslim massacring each others as millions moved across the border. But it was an independence planed and executed in less than 6 months, amidst existing religious tension, that made a tense situation worse by forcing a mass emigration on short notice. To the point people were staving on the road and supplies had to be parachuted to the columns of migrants.
As for my invitation to debate the impact of the British exit of India, it is not meant to carry an opinion but to open discussion. I am less knowledgeable about the subject, but my opinion is that even if good border had been drawn the Kashmir would have ever been contentious and conflict would have flared there. But again, open to debate.
I hope this clears things up.
Also my grammar is awful but bear with me English isn’t my 1st language.
North America?
The present US/Mexico border was set by the treaty of Guadalupe-Hidalgo AFAIK, If any of Mexico’s southern border is an English speaker’s fault I’m unaware of it, I suppose Canada was still pretty much a British crown colony when most of the US/CA border was hashed out, but except for Demented Child Rapist In Chief nobody contests that border.
The British don’t know what the fuck they’re doing. Scotland wants to break away. Northern Ireland wants to break away. These fuckwits cut off their own nose, crashing out of the EU. They literally still think they’ve “done a world of good” for the countries they colonised and exploited.
United Ireland when?
Almost like there’s some sort of “The Great Game” being played.
“War is a game that is played with a smile. If you can’t smile, grin. If you can’t grin, keep out of the way till you can.”
-Churchill.The psychopath responsible for many genocides and millions of deaths.
OC never mentioned when they make their list of mass murderers, that’s Hitler and every commie leader ever they can think of.
This POS gets voted as greatest Briton.Ah, yes, well, you see, he made some great speeches and also… er… played cricket.
Actually, cancel the speeches thing, Hitler made some great speeches too. So it’s just the cricket thing.
Yeah, but they got Cricket in return.
Very efficient way to entertain themselves though.
Funny lines!? I’ll have you know they were straight as an arrow!
/j
