Only one juror needs to be aware of it before the deliberation, the hard part is getting everyone to agree to it. Repeated trials with repeatedly hung juries would almost be better though
Having him be released under jury nullification would send a powerful message to the elites.
Honestly, an activist film maker should make a movie about how people arrested for helping fugitive slaves escape were often released under jury nullification. Get the idea out there.
In 1988, the Sixth Circuit upheld a jury instruction: “There is no such thing as valid jury nullification.” In United States v. Thomas (1997), the Second Circuit ruled that jurors can be removed if there is evidence that they intend to nullify the law. The Supreme Court has not recently confronted the issue of jury nullification. In 2017, a jury was instructed: “You cannot substitute your sense of justice, whatever that means, for your duty to follow the law, whether you agree with it or not. It is not for you to determine whether the law is just or whether the law is unjust. That cannot be your task. There is no such thing as valid jury nullification. You would violate your oath and the law if you willfully brought a verdict contrary to the law given to you in this case.” The Ninth Circuit upheld the first three sentences of the jury’s instruction and overruled the remainder but deemed that instruction a harmless error and affirmed the conviction
If the jury is nullified, it will end up back at the SCOTUS, and under the current circumstances, the majority of the court is FULLY and OPENLY owned by the oligarchs.
We need an acquittal.
Also, if it looks like he’s going to get out, I would not be at all surprised to see him oofed with more ‘lost’ footage.
My jury experience was not confidence inspiring. Granted, it was not high profile. It was a civil case that drug on for a week. Essentially, there were three of us that lead the decision by force of personality. Everyone else was waiting to go home.
Well, yes, however there is some predictability regarding people and how they move on groups. In addition, how people flow in terms of the numbers of leaders and non-leaders in any given group. What are the odds of 12 random people who are individual, self starters with opinions with no fear of “confrontation” (with fellow jurors) and no reticence regarding speaking in a group of twelve?
There is a large body of research within the cognitive science / behavioral economics paradigm on juries. Dig in. It’s not reassuring, either way.
For any jury, I posit that it would take 1 person with a personality who knows about jury nullification to present it to the rest. What is the likelihood that none of the 12 know?
Personally, I made no effort to get out of jury duty because of my past studies and research. Curiosity drew me in, and it will again on the next call. You should check out the process, given the opportunity.
During the Viet Nam War, activists robbed paper lists of potential draftees from the federal office housing the lists, were caught, and tried. The defendants more or less put the war on trial. The jury acquitted all activists of all charges. Yes, they robbed a federal office, but, nah. Their act was a direct attack on the federal government and its war, and yet, no SCOTUS.
My main concern for Luigi is related to 2024, the year of the whistleblower murders. I look at that, in terms of what CEOs are capable of. I look at Luigi. And wonder if those same CEOs will allow him to walk even if acquitted.
12 jurors all being aware of it and wanting to do it is extremely unlikely, unfortunately.
Only one juror needs to be aware of it before the deliberation, the hard part is getting everyone to agree to it. Repeated trials with repeatedly hung juries would almost be better though
Having him be released under jury nullification would send a powerful message to the elites.
Honestly, an activist film maker should make a movie about how people arrested for helping fugitive slaves escape were often released under jury nullification. Get the idea out there.
If the jury is nullified, it will end up back at the SCOTUS, and under the current circumstances, the majority of the court is FULLY and OPENLY owned by the oligarchs.
We need an acquittal.
Also, if it looks like he’s going to get out, I would not be at all surprised to see him oofed with more ‘lost’ footage.
I expect this is how it’s actually going to go down
That’s a fantastic idea
My jury experience was not confidence inspiring. Granted, it was not high profile. It was a civil case that drug on for a week. Essentially, there were three of us that lead the decision by force of personality. Everyone else was waiting to go home.
The nature of the selection process alone will make it extremely difficult for them all to be of the same mind.
Well, yes, however there is some predictability regarding people and how they move on groups. In addition, how people flow in terms of the numbers of leaders and non-leaders in any given group. What are the odds of 12 random people who are individual, self starters with opinions with no fear of “confrontation” (with fellow jurors) and no reticence regarding speaking in a group of twelve?
There is a large body of research within the cognitive science / behavioral economics paradigm on juries. Dig in. It’s not reassuring, either way.
For any jury, I posit that it would take 1 person with a personality who knows about jury nullification to present it to the rest. What is the likelihood that none of the 12 know?
Personally, I made no effort to get out of jury duty because of my past studies and research. Curiosity drew me in, and it will again on the next call. You should check out the process, given the opportunity.
Check out 1988 here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jury_nullification
I worry that even if it goes to null, it’ll get frozen and go to SCOTUS who will certainly side with the bourgeoisie.
During the Viet Nam War, activists robbed paper lists of potential draftees from the federal office housing the lists, were caught, and tried. The defendants more or less put the war on trial. The jury acquitted all activists of all charges. Yes, they robbed a federal office, but, nah. Their act was a direct attack on the federal government and its war, and yet, no SCOTUS.
My main concern for Luigi is related to 2024, the year of the whistleblower murders. I look at that, in terms of what CEOs are capable of. I look at Luigi. And wonder if those same CEOs will allow him to walk even if acquitted.