What a load of shit that they file the case as “people of NY against luigi.” It’s not the fucking people that have a problem with him, it’s the parasites desperately running from the guillotine of consequences.
You’re not smart.
You’re an asshole.
Support heroes like Luigi.
Not all heroes wear capes 💚
Basically to me it’s like this: If there’s no evidence to convict Luigi then that means he’s innocent, therefore, free him. If there’s evidence to convict him then he’s a hero, therefore, free him.
I don’t think the person that was arrested is the person who shot the healthcare guy. I think the cops grabbed a convinent person and planted evidence.
the people who belong in jail are the healthcare CEOs
And the President, plus most of his posse.
…plus ALL of his posse.
man, team trump is fucking desperate to change all the news to be about anything but the fact that Republicans refuse to release the list of pedophiles Donald Trump is on.
I bet he’s going to start WW3, it’s the only thing distracting enough
It will be very strange if jury nullification doesn’t happen.
I bet they do everything in their power to keep this from actually going to trial.
How long can they hold him without a trial?
Missed out on all the concentration camps recently, have you?
Depends on how he’s classified. The US has held some terrorists indefinitely without charges or trial.
“terrorists”
Putting quotes around the word doesn’t change anything. He can still be designated a terrorist and held indefinitely without charge or trial.
I don’t think he’s a terrorist. But my opinion doesn’t matter.
My point is that it’s just a magical justification for torture.
That’s fair. But at the same time, I think his actions fit the definition of terrorism - politically motivated violence - to the letter.
They’re just people. They always have been people who have been hurt and destroyed by the systems that pretend they didn’t cause it. And America sure as shit isn’t the authority on who’s a terrorist
Haven’t checked in a while but aren’t they now hashing out which evidence is admissible?
I think they can send him to Gitmo or some other black site whenever, wherever
They’re sending people farther for less. But he has eyes on him. He’s not a nameless immigrant.
That’s not very nice of them. I wonder what their grandmothers would think if they knew
I think it’s more likely that the jury will vote to acquit just based on lack of evidence combined with police misconduct (and incompetence).
The evidence they’ve publicly talked about is both itself fishy and has chain of custody issues.
Normally they’d be able to get away with that because most defendants can’t afford good legal representation and most cases don’t get much scrutiny.
In this case, however, I think those issues completely sink the prosecution’s case and he’ll be acquitted just because the jury won’t believe he’s guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.
If at least half of what his lawyer claimed is true and able to be proven in court, he has a decent chance.
The way it’s described sounded like he was on his way to the next one. Why else would you carry all of that with you?
They didn’t Miranda him. Maybe they didn’t want to Miranda him.
They didn’t Miranda him. Maybe they didn’t want to Miranda him.
What?
Miranda warning is for custodial interrogations, they don’t have to read it to you if they aren’t asking questions or if its non-custodial (you weren’t under arrest). And only those statements made under a custodial interrogation would be inadmissible, everything else would still be admissible, including the gun and manifesto that they supposedly found on him.
This is assuming that everything you’ve just described is permitted into evidence.
No it doesn’t. He’s innocent until proven guilty.
The evidence presented by the prosecution has to stand up to scrutiny, and it won’t.
has to stand up to scrutiny
But to what scrutiny, precisely? If a judge decides that certain specific problems with the evidence are inadmissible (including police misconduct and chain of custody issues), what other scrutiny could be given to the evidence?
Judges already have a lot of leeway over how they run trials even within the law, and we’re talking about a country that has removed even the pretence of rule of law in the past six months (more, if we go back to the Trump v United States ruling last year).
Luigi is innocent. Just from looking at the pics, the brows are different. Luigi didn’t do it. Jury nullification is not needed. A simple acquittal is all that is needed.
Conspiracy time, but it could be why they’re taking so long to move forward.
Gotta wait until all the “documentaries” that say Luigi did it circulate enough to pollute the jury pool enough to convict.
They already did the documentaries shortly after he was arrested. It didn’t impact it much, either.
I just want him acquitted so we can recreate this image and have it replaced the old image on the Wikipedia page for acquittal.
The jury will be told that they have to find according to the letter of the law, and they’ll almost certainly be screened by the prosecution during jury selection to avoid people who know nullification is a thing.
It’s certainly possible that it could occur regardless, but they’ll do everything they can to avoid it.
Prosecutor: Potential Juror #5. Are you aware of the concept of Jury Nullification?
Juror: I am now.
How do you screen for jury nullification without informing everyone as to what jury nullification is?
Defense has as many strikes as prosecutor…
True, but if the prosecution seeks the death penalty (which is likely), any jurors that say they’d have difficulty condemning someone to death will be automatically disqualified with no strikes used.
Since people who don’t have any problems with the death penalty is MUCH more likely to have a clear bias in favor of the prosecution and the cops are good at spotting people lying in order to get on (or off) a jury, making it a death penalty case all but eliminates any chance of a fair trial.
But a strike can’t bring back in someone who has been eliminated. You can use your strikes to whittle away people who have a property likely to be bad for you, but you can’t use it to include people with a quality that would be good for you.
12 jurors all being aware of it and wanting to do it is extremely unlikely, unfortunately.
Only one juror needs to be aware of it before the deliberation, the hard part is getting everyone to agree to it. Repeated trials with repeatedly hung juries would almost be better though
Having him be released under jury nullification would send a powerful message to the elites.
Honestly, an activist film maker should make a movie about how people arrested for helping fugitive slaves escape were often released under jury nullification. Get the idea out there.
In 1988, the Sixth Circuit upheld a jury instruction: “There is no such thing as valid jury nullification.” In United States v. Thomas (1997), the Second Circuit ruled that jurors can be removed if there is evidence that they intend to nullify the law. The Supreme Court has not recently confronted the issue of jury nullification. In 2017, a jury was instructed: “You cannot substitute your sense of justice, whatever that means, for your duty to follow the law, whether you agree with it or not. It is not for you to determine whether the law is just or whether the law is unjust. That cannot be your task. There is no such thing as valid jury nullification. You would violate your oath and the law if you willfully brought a verdict contrary to the law given to you in this case.” The Ninth Circuit upheld the first three sentences of the jury’s instruction and overruled the remainder but deemed that instruction a harmless error and affirmed the conviction
If the jury is nullified, it will end up back at the SCOTUS, and under the current circumstances, the majority of the court is FULLY and OPENLY owned by the oligarchs.
We need an acquittal.
Also, if it looks like he’s going to get out, I would not be at all surprised to see him oofed with more ‘lost’ footage.
I would not be at all surprised to see him oofed with more ‘lost’ footage
I expect this is how it’s actually going to go down
That’s a fantastic idea
My jury experience was not confidence inspiring. Granted, it was not high profile. It was a civil case that drug on for a week. Essentially, there were three of us that lead the decision by force of personality. Everyone else was waiting to go home.
The nature of the selection process alone will make it extremely difficult for them all to be of the same mind.
Well, yes, however there is some predictability regarding people and how they move on groups. In addition, how people flow in terms of the numbers of leaders and non-leaders in any given group. What are the odds of 12 random people who are individual, self starters with opinions with no fear of “confrontation” (with fellow jurors) and no reticence regarding speaking in a group of twelve?
There is a large body of research within the cognitive science / behavioral economics paradigm on juries. Dig in. It’s not reassuring, either way.
For any jury, I posit that it would take 1 person with a personality who knows about jury nullification to present it to the rest. What is the likelihood that none of the 12 know?
Personally, I made no effort to get out of jury duty because of my past studies and research. Curiosity drew me in, and it will again on the next call. You should check out the process, given the opportunity.
Check out 1988 here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jury_nullification
I worry that even if it goes to null, it’ll get frozen and go to SCOTUS who will certainly side with the bourgeoisie.
During the Viet Nam War, activists robbed paper lists of potential draftees from the federal office housing the lists, were caught, and tried. The defendants more or less put the war on trial. The jury acquitted all activists of all charges. Yes, they robbed a federal office, but, nah. Their act was a direct attack on the federal government and its war, and yet, no SCOTUS.
My main concern for Luigi is related to 2024, the year of the whistleblower murders. I look at that, in terms of what CEOs are capable of. I look at Luigi. And wonder if those same CEOs will allow him to walk even if acquitted.
Explain it like I’m five. Why are the funds such a big deal? Paying lawyers doesn’t make the lawyers better at their job to my knowledge, it just makes the lawyers better paid. For better or worse, I’m guessing the judge will be the one getting the last word.
Also, he’s from a rich family, correct? Why not take from them?
self defense against the 1% killing us isn’t terrorism. free him
I think his best defence now would just be for everyone to start following in his footsteps. They are going to execute him no matter what
One luigi per ceo
“It’s-a me, Mario!”
My guess is Bill Burr, based on nothing scientific.
Burr seems like the type of guy that wouldn’t hesitate to say it was him, in a good way.
“Yeah I donated it. I donated so he’d have a fucking chance. Fuck those guys. LADIES!” or something like that.
Didn’t Bill say that Billionaires should be hunted down like rabid dogs or something?
Like the most dangerous game? I love it.
Yes he did.
I read that in his voice and it worked perfectly. You nailed it.
How much is $50k in legal money? Are we talking a game changer or enough to cover lunch?
He doesn’t really need the money for the legal bills. His family has a good bit of money. But the gesture is nice and the money could be used for other things if they don’t use it.
A bronze statue?
Maybe a 3D printer. To pursue his hobbies.
You know that young man Luigi — such a good maker AND such a good taker!
Damn girl, u nasty 🐸
I know he comes from money. But I thought he was kind of on awkward terms with them. Are they actually supporting his legal defense?
I haven’t heard of any trouble between them? As far as I understand it they hadn’t spoken for a few months but were worried and are helping his defense.
More than lunch, not a game changer.
Imagine $325-$500 an hour (I know this is general and broad).
I’m guessing (completely without any knowledge) that it buys more lawyers able to work on the case.
I’m also curious what it really does.
Some cool ass guy
Based
😂
