Occupied Palestine (Quds News Network)- A 24-year-old Israeli soldier living in occupied Safad, called Daniel Edri, set himself on fire yesterday. His burned body was found inside his car in a forest near Safad. Edri had served in both the Gaza Strip and Lebanon during his reserve duty.
The soldier’s mother said: “He told me he had seen horrors and said, ‘Mom, I constantly smell the burned bodies and see them everywhere.'”
It should have done the only moral thing left and take out his superior officer with him
Two if possible 2:1 kd
always the option of not participating in burning anyone
He took the only other option there is. You think they won’t murder him in jail for refusing. You haven’t been paying attention.
Not really an option there unless you feel the country or subject yourself to arrest, everyone is a conscript there isn’t really a separation of civilian and military life
You’re right, leaving the colonialist project or getting arrested and jailed for a couple months is so much worse than committing genocide then immolating yourself because your brain can’t comprehend the suffering you’ve caused. He really had no choice.
so there really are options, is what you’re saying
so just commiting genocide then? no other option.
Obviously this guy would have been better off fleeing the country or going to jail, committing genocide has literally ruined his own life too.
So they need to laugh, while filming themselves killing children and other innocent people?
Not an excuse, doesn’t lessen their atrocities even slightly.
Get arrested then. It’s better than killing civilians. If you think not getting arrested is worth committing a literal genocide, you’re an objectively horrible person and are not worthy of the least bit of respect or sympathy. The laws written after WWII specifically rejects the notion that soldiers can absolve themselves of responsibility by following orders.
Terrible in one sense - but also, a lot more of the criminal Israel soldiers needs to mirror his behavior. Sorry to say, they are choosing to commit horrible acts of violence and murder. Since no one else is stopping them, they should stop themselves, and face the punishment.
Sadly most of his “brothers in arms” feel nothing but joy when they “wipe out the vermin”.
Thoughts and prayers.
Thoughts: Fuck that guy
Prayers: Hey God, remember to warm up the brimstone for this one!
oh waow, he finally did something good
how horrendous is the IDF, that even those commiting it end up dead from the trauma of just witnessing it.
did the Auschwitz guards had this problem?
It was the problem Auschwitz was designed to solve. There were big mental strains amongst the mobile death squads, particularly on the Eastern Front, basically making themselves completely insane and uncontrollable.
The Death camps were refined to be as humane as possible… for the SS. So the killing involved user-friendly pellets of Zyklon-B being dropped down chutes or through holes in a wall of a gas-tight room. The SS could not see their victims, but could hear them, and no intervention was necessary. It took 20 minutes for the last to die.
Then prisoners on work detail would be forced to clear out the bodies, remove glasses, jewellery, gold fillings, hair, and artificial limbs for later resale on the commercial market, then they would carry the bodies the short distance to the incinerators, and later would dispose of the ashes by burial, dumping in the river or scattered as fertiliser. The SS were supervising, but didn’t need to get too close. It allowed those who chose to do so to put some emotional distance between themselves and the slaughter.
honestly, these replies scare me.
I hope Israel doesn’t try this. but they might
Also look up the Sonderkommando. They were death camp prisoners tasked with emptying the gas chambers and cremating the victims to “save” the SS from having to do it. When it was their turn in the gas chamber, most of them were reported to be relieved, and there’s a story of a Sonderkommando team being warned by another prisoner that they’re headed to the gas chamber, and they essentially said “we know. We’re the Sonderkommando and this is a mercy for us.”
They won’t have to, they are a lot better at dehumanizing genocide victims than the Nazis were. This guy is the minority, the rest will do it with a smile on their faces
did the Auschwitz guards had this problem?
I hope so
@IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds @geneva_convenience
@palestine
Most Israelis seem to revel in the bloodshed. Most Israelis probably belong in prison.
#CrimesAgainstHumanity
#WarCrimes
#genocide
#IsraelI seem to remember accounts of Himmler doing CC inspections and being told that the tasks being asked of the guards were having severe impacts on them.
In his death-row memoir, Rudolf Höss discussed the “many suicides” among the men of the Einsatzgruppen and those “who could no longer mentally endure wading in the bloodbath … [and] went mad.” He continued, “Most of the members of the Special Action Squads [i.e., Einsatzgruppen] drank a great deal to help get through this horrible work.”¹⁷
Likewise, SS colonel Paul Blobel, the commander of Sonderkommando 4a, who enjoyed his reputation as “‘an efficient killer of Jews’ as well as a ‘drunk and a monster,’” still attempted to place himself in the rôle of the victim by citing the “psychological trauma” of his experience, in which alcohol became a means for dealing with his participation in genocide.¹⁸
(Source.)
Nevertheless,
There was […] a notable lack of guilt among the top [Axis] leaders, but fear of retribution may well have prompted their suicides.
(Source.)
I have seen plausible claims that camp guards in particular were more suicidal, but I have no proof.
Not really, the SS was selected for cruelty and indoctrination, the IDF is a conscripted army. They didn’t put conscripts inside Auschwitz exactly because of this.
Doesn’t matter what they were selected for, traumatic experiences can get to anyone. I know we have this shared history that SS guards were the worst of humanity and boy howdy I’m sure they were awful, but at the end of the day they were still young men. eg Even the most garbage humans in the US military can get PTSD.
There’d be fewer dead people if you’d done this sooner.
Still no sympathy for him
I’m so excited to hear about the IDF mental health crisis from all the wonderful journalists
Yeah. It’s not like you “suddenly” realize you’re a Nazi and decide to kill yourself. His brain broke after being a fucking Nazi for so long. Rest in piss.
Aww. I feel so bad for him. He has such a heavy heart after killing hundreds of civilians.
May all his buddies deliver upon themselves the people’s justice
Ideally he could have fragged some higher ups, but this will have to do
@barrbaric @geneva_convenience
Who is responsible? Some leave the IDF and are glad they “served”
They are a threat to the world.
or maybe he was planning to be a whistle blower and they found out.
I wonder what whistle you can blow when they are all doing it in the open and broadcasting it, daring the world to say anything
Yeah I was gonna say the whistle blowing is searching for videos of the IDF online. They literally make tiktoks of their war crimes set to some awful music track.
Burn in hell haha
@geneva_convenience
I would not be able to live if I were him either. I feel sad for him, but he did the only thing possible for himself.He finally killed a bad person.
@geneva_convenience
btw
who is Jeff Goldberg?https://www.pbs.org/weta/washingtonweek/about-us/jeffrey-goldberg
American who went to colonize Palestine and became an IDF prison guard. Not sure how it’s relevant to this article though.
@geneva_convenience he’s at least as bad as the rest, but look how he’s respectable because someone in the family bought him a printing press.
He’s smart enough to play the game so he doesn’t scare people off, and that, IMO, makes him worse than the clueless killers.
There is some missing from the resume they provide.
