White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt was asked about the possibility of revoking Zohran Mamdani’s citizenship status and didn’t say no.
  • SlayGuevara@lemmygrad.ml
    14·
    3 days ago

    You know you can see western Europe following the US and stuff like this makes me a bit anxious as a migrant. Especially considering my political activism against the state.

    Though my possible deportation would be far less impactful and dramatic than any non Westerner living here of course.

    Also, the guts to talk about illegal immigration on stolen land even.

    • ☭CommieWolf☆@lemmygrad.ml
      22·
      3 days ago

      Mate… you would be deported from Belgium to the Netherlands… thats absolutely nothing. Take it from someone who’s actually been deported, you will never know the half of it.

      • SlayGuevara@lemmygrad.ml
        5·
        3 days ago

        Hence my second paragraph. It’s not really nothing, I have a life here now. And a job. And a house. And friends.

        But my comment was not meant to trauma larp or anything. I understand my situation would be vastly more preferable than any non Western migrant and their struggle alone should be enough motivation to stop such bills from being implemented.

        • ☭CommieWolf☆@lemmygrad.ml
          3·
          3 days ago

          I will admit I got a quite upset seeing your initial comment due to my own personal experience, and I apologize for coming across so hostile.

          But I will maintain that, while your concerns are not unjustified, should you be deported, you will be at worst an annoying car ride/train journey away from seeing your friends again. As well as those places and things you have grown attached to over the years you’ve been an immigrant, and even your work, as due to the Schengen zone, you could even still do the same job and commute between the countries. And at worst, should you be totally banned from entering for whatever reason, your friends can still take that short ride over and see you.

          For many deported people, like myself, especially those sent back to the global south, we are left economically crippled and have to start over with almost nothing, knowing that we will likely NEVER return to the life, people, and everything else we were made to leave behind.

          Even thinking about it today, years later, makes me so irrationally upset and depressed, knowing I’ll likely never return and see my friends again, due to both the sheer distance, and the sheer economic unlikelihood of such a thing. I guess seeing these kinds of “first world” worries makes me feel a rage at the sheer injustice that I am subjected to, just because of where I happened to be born.

          • SlayGuevara@lemmygrad.ml
            3·
            3 days ago

            For what it’s worth I also agree with you on this. All of this bullshit is dumb as hell and I wish nobody ever has to experience it. My possible experience will not even come close to yours or of those of the refugees I talk to at work for example.

            • ☭CommieWolf☆@lemmygrad.ml
              3·
              3 days ago

              I get what you mean. Perspective makes it hard sometimes to not compare the third world experience to the grievances of those in the imperial core and not feel a sense of resentment. However, at the end of the day I don’t wish hardship on you or anyone.

  • big_spoon@lemmygrad.ml
    18·
    3 days ago

    it’s like a competition of being how many things they can remove from their alleged “rights” before all the earth see burguerland as a dictatorship and a failed state

  • الأرض ستبقى عربية@lemmygrad.ml
    8·
    3 days ago

    Can you still be denaturalized after leaving the US? I left but still required to pay taxes and renouncing the citizenship involves an exit tax. I’m assuming denaturalization doesn’t come with a tax burden.

  • darkernations@lemmygrad.ml
    7·
    3 days ago

    There’s going to a be tipping point if that they make enough people “illegal” and desperate too quickly then there will be national militant action against the state. There will not be enough ICE agents to stop that. Unless there’s another FDR to allow factions of capital to save itself from the others’ shortsightedness (from a capital perspective).

  • Addfwyn@lemmygrad.ml
    13·
    4 days ago

    Well, brightside is it saves you a few thousand dollars on renouncing your citizenship. It isn’t a cheap or easy process normally.

    • knfrmity@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
      12·
      3 days ago

      I wouldn’t put it past the US to charge the victims of this the renunciation fee anyway, and keep them on the IRS list as tax persons.

    • Eiren (she/her)@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
      131·
      4 days ago

      I am genuinely hoping they start doing this and there’s an easy enough way for me to make myself a target. I have U.S. citizenship and I do not want it, but I don’t have the money to jump through all their hoops to renounce it.

      • ☭ Comrade Pup Ivy 🇨🇺@lemmygrad.ml
        13·
        3 days ago

        Just be sure that you know what countries are willing to give you citzenship if you are stateless if the US is your only citizenship… coincidentaly I belive Cuba will give stateless people citizenship

        • Tormato [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
          10·
          3 days ago

          Would be the greatest, sweetest irony that a brain drain here could turn Cuba into the greatest socialist country in the world, a Mecca for folks tired of the capitalist soul-suck.

  • trashxeos@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
    11·
    4 days ago

    Between this and his recent tweet on his twitter clone referencing Musk, I give it 6 weeks tops before they actually try it.