• Aeao@lemmy.world
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    19 hours ago

    Let me cut thru the fat and just explain why your argument is ridiculous. I’ll put politics and jokes aside.

    I love a battle semantics more than most. I once brought a $100 dictionary to my HOA pool to explain “dusk” to the security guard.

    Let me explain why your argument is silly.

    You want numbers to prove it was a failure, correct?

    Okay. We will have them in a couple days when they are available. However in the meantime YOU need to define your parameters if you are going to argue. What exactly is a “failure” to you? How little viewing/attendance is the threshold for this argument? When is a parade a failure exactly?

    If you want to argue what is or isn’t a failed parade and you want proof… Fine, but we need your goal posts, we need to know you describe as a failed parade because numbers are just numbers. What’s your metric?

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      16 hours ago

      Just to make this clear, you are doing the exact same thing that conservatives do; make a claim with no evidence to prove so, when questioned divert and/or provide anecdotal evidence, and then when pushed further state that it’s the questioner’s job to provide the evidence. You’re acting like you’re better than conservatives and then doing the same bullshit they do. Be better.

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        16 hours ago

        I never once asked you for evidence. That’s a flat out lie. I asked for parameters. What do want as evidence? What do you consider proof to be? What numbers do you consider shows a failed parade?

        It’s very simple. You don’t even have to research. It’s entirely your opinion I’m asking for. Not proof. Wheres the goal post? It’s a reasonable question.

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      17 hours ago

      You’re the one not providing figures and saying it’s a failure dude. It’s not my job to define failure, you’re the one making the claim. Not to pull out logical fallacies but this is the biggest case of “burden of proof” I’ve ever seen. I don’t really give a shit how many people went to the parade, it’s a huge waste of money and a joke no matter what.

      You are the one making crazy claims without proof. Either wait for the proof or don’t be mad when others point out that you have no proof. I’m just helping out the poor other soul that pointed out your ridiculous claims that serve only to make democrats and people supporting the protests look bad. You know how they make us look bad? Because what happens when someone shows up and says “the no kings day protests were a huge failure” and you provide the nice stats that are already available showing it’s a success, and then that same person says “the birthday parade was a huge success” and you have zero facts to back that up! You literally only make it look like you’re incapable of being unbiased.

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        16 hours ago

        It’s exactly your job to define failure. You asked for proof. Tell me what proof looks like. What do you consider proof?

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          8 hours ago

          lol it is not dude, holy shit conservative playbook much? You’re the one claiming failure and yet you can’t even define it because you don’t have figures!

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            7 hours ago

            I haven’t claimed anything. i don’t think I’ve even called it a failure.

            I have plenty of proof tho. What proof would you like?

            Let me try an illustrative example:

            Prove to me the planet Jupiter is huge

            That leaves the question "what proof are you asking for exactly?! What’s needed to prove huge to you? What are the goal posts and I can provide information to prove it’s huge… If I only have “prove it” I’m not sure what to hand you…

            That’s how it gets silly

            “The parade was a failure”

            “Prove it”

            "What exactly do you want proven? Failure is an opinion so what’s the metric we are working worth? What proves a failure of a parade? I mean it was viewed by significantly less people than the Macy’s day parade? I hated the idea of the parade and complained it was happening but somehow still forgot it was happening at all… Does being forgettable count as failure ? It had less turnout than expected… Is that a failure? It cost millions of dollars and even the people arguing it wasn’t a failure admit they didn’t watch it or care it happened at all… Is that failure?

            What exactly do you want proven? I’ll prove it I just need to know what I’m researching for you?