Rofl I read that it was supposed to have “historical uniforms” with all eras of the US military represented from pre America colonial times up until now. I’m not super into military stuff but I am super into history and I understand militaries play integral part of modern history and was a little bummed such an interesting idea was being wasted on someone so shitty not like, our 250th birthday or something more wholesome. Hilarious it’s just some dudes in fatigues and some squeaky tanks
I’m having trouble finding a video of that. Don’t suppose you can share one?“military parade protest” finds protests about the parade rather than in it.
Not sure what you mean, but I think too many people just demonstrate their “wishful thinking”. They want to convince people (themselves in the first place) that something went wrong with the parade, while it was a completely ordinary parade. People will start to discuss face expressions of the people in the 4th row, the colour of the ribbons on the left column, the weather, whatever, to find even the smallest flaws.
How much of the parade did you watch? I watched none. I think most of America will say they didn’t even bother to turn on the tv, most probably forgot it was happening at all.
Compare that to the Macy’s day parade. It was a failure. He wanted it to be a big deal, it absolutely was not a big deal. Failure.
You do realize how this just doesn’t follow logically right? I don’t think I’ve ever once watched the Macy’s day parade ever. I sure as hell don’t think that most Americans watch it. That doesn’t mean that the Macy’s day parade is a failure. The person you’re talking to is asking for any sort of source. Only one person in this thread has even bothered to discuss this properly with that person. The truth of the matter is that you need factual numbers to discuss this. You can’t go off of feelings or Twitter replies or comments in overwhelmingly democratic communities. You need an actual source with factual numbers. Until there is something like that then it’s pointless discussing whether the parade was a failure or not.
I don’t think I’ve ever once watched the Macy’s day parade ever. I sure as hell don’t think that most Americans watch it. That doesn’t mean that the Macy’s day parade is a failure
I sure as hell don’t think that most Americans watch it.
Hey look, what I said was accurate.
Thus making the Macy’s parade the most successful.
That doesn’t mean that the Macy’s day parade is a failure
Hey look! You proved my point a second time!
Anecdotal evidence means nothing! The person I responded to said that they didn’t watch it and most people probably didn’t, that makes it a failure. Literally the source you provided (hey look, a source!) shows that most Americans not watching a parade doesn’t make it a failure, and that anecdotal evidence is the worst kind of evidence, in this case leading to a completely incorrect conclusion by Aeao.
Let me cut thru the fat and just explain why your argument is ridiculous. I’ll put politics and jokes aside.
I love a battle semantics more than most. I once brought a $100 dictionary to my HOA pool to explain “dusk” to the security guard.
Let me explain why your argument is silly.
You want numbers to prove it was a failure, correct?
Okay. We will have them in a couple days when they are available. However in the meantime YOU need to define your parameters if you are going to argue. What exactly is a “failure” to you? How little viewing/attendance is the threshold for this argument? When is a parade a failure exactly?
If you want to argue what is or isn’t a failed parade and you want proof… Fine, but we need your goal posts, we need to know you describe as a failed parade because numbers are just numbers. What’s your metric?
Just to make this clear, you are doing the exact same thing that conservatives do; make a claim with no evidence to prove so, when questioned divert and/or provide anecdotal evidence, and then when pushed further state that it’s the questioner’s job to provide the evidence. You’re acting like you’re better than conservatives and then doing the same bullshit they do. Be better.
You’re the one not providing figures and saying it’s a failure dude. It’s not my job to define failure, you’re the one making the claim. Not to pull out logical fallacies but this is the biggest case of “burden of proof” I’ve ever seen. I don’t really give a shit how many people went to the parade, it’s a huge waste of money and a joke no matter what.
You are the one making crazy claims without proof. Either wait for the proof or don’t be mad when others point out that you have no proof. I’m just helping out the poor other soul that pointed out your ridiculous claims that serve only to make democrats and people supporting the protests look bad. You know how they make us look bad? Because what happens when someone shows up and says “the no kings day protests were a huge failure” and you provide the nice stats that are already available showing it’s a success, and then that same person says “the birthday parade was a huge success” and you have zero facts to back that up! You literally only make it look like you’re incapable of being unbiased.
You (and apparently 11 others) have completely misread my comment. I explicitly said "That doesn’t mean that the Macy’s day parade is a failure. Macy’s Day Parade is clearly absolutely a success. And guess what, there’s metrics to back it up. My point is that just because I do not watch it doesn’t mean that it’s not a success. There are zero metrics provided by Aeao nor by the article to substantiate any sort of conclusion about trump’s parade one way or the other. Until those statistics come out, anything anyone says about the failure or success of the event is just spreading misinformation.
I think they didn’t provide a source because there are no reliable numbers. Those may still come at a later date.
I did find these sources though. They suggest that the turnout was substantially lower than expected and that estimates of attendance numbers are hotly debated.
I know you’re getting downvoted a lot, but I don’t think you’re a Trump supporter or arguing in bad faith. I know what you mean.
People on the left, like myself, were always going to call the parade a failure. It was always going to be a sad, pointless attempt at spectacle. By its very nature, it was a failure. In no world were we going to say, “yeah I hate the guy, but damn if he doesn’t know how to throw a bitchin’ parade.”
On the flipside, Trump and Maga folks were always going to call it a success. Or maybe there are reports of angry red hat people who expected a better show and were disappointed. Unlikely, though.
On what terms do you define its success or failure? Yes, attendance is one. If they expected ten times as many people, then, as you say, it’s a failure. You aren’t wrong for asking for a source.
I think your original comment was less along the lines of, “how do we know it wasn’t an amazing success, though?” and more like, “wasn’t the parade exactly as expected?”
Yeah literally nothing in the article to suggest that it was a failure. He screamed his propaganda, people were there for it and his sponsors got their word out.
And how exactly did that failure show? Nothing exploded, people were attending, nothing at all was out of line. Just a regular parade.
The only videos I can find of soldiers marching has them in normal-ass fatigues, shuffling like people ashamed of being there. Reeks of veiled cringe.
Rofl I read that it was supposed to have “historical uniforms” with all eras of the US military represented from pre America colonial times up until now. I’m not super into military stuff but I am super into history and I understand militaries play integral part of modern history and was a little bummed such an interesting idea was being wasted on someone so shitty not like, our 250th birthday or something more wholesome. Hilarious it’s just some dudes in fatigues and some squeaky tanks
Even soldiers marched wrong out of protest.
They marched fine on nato military parades. Its like they do not respect their president or something.
I’m having trouble finding a video of that. Don’t suppose you can share one?“military parade protest” finds protests about the parade rather than in it.
Bait used to be believable SMH.
It’s literally the first line of the article: cost up to $45 million, was short on attendees, long on political speeches.
Isn’t it what all parades are? Costly and propagandish? That is their essence.
And that “short on attendees” needs concrete numbers. If there were 15 people total, I would agree without knowing how many were actually expected…
Remember to just agree with the .ml and .zip gang… they’re just being fair and objective.
caring about a domain address is cringe
Not when you understand what kind of brainless worms prefer those instances.
yeeeessssss, let the division flow through you
Not sure what you mean, but I think too many people just demonstrate their “wishful thinking”. They want to convince people (themselves in the first place) that something went wrong with the parade, while it was a completely ordinary parade. People will start to discuss face expressions of the people in the 4th row, the colour of the ribbons on the left column, the weather, whatever, to find even the smallest flaws.
How much of the parade did you watch? I watched none. I think most of America will say they didn’t even bother to turn on the tv, most probably forgot it was happening at all.
Compare that to the Macy’s day parade. It was a failure. He wanted it to be a big deal, it absolutely was not a big deal. Failure.
You do realize how this just doesn’t follow logically right? I don’t think I’ve ever once watched the Macy’s day parade ever. I sure as hell don’t think that most Americans watch it. That doesn’t mean that the Macy’s day parade is a failure. The person you’re talking to is asking for any sort of source. Only one person in this thread has even bothered to discuss this properly with that person. The truth of the matter is that you need factual numbers to discuss this. You can’t go off of feelings or Twitter replies or comments in overwhelmingly democratic communities. You need an actual source with factual numbers. Until there is something like that then it’s pointless discussing whether the parade was a failure or not.
23 million people watch it last year. And it out performed all other entertainment specials.. Thus making the Macy’s parade the most successful.
Hey look, what I said was accurate.
Hey look! You proved my point a second time!
Anecdotal evidence means nothing! The person I responded to said that they didn’t watch it and most people probably didn’t, that makes it a failure. Literally the source you provided (hey look, a source!) shows that most Americans not watching a parade doesn’t make it a failure, and that anecdotal evidence is the worst kind of evidence, in this case leading to a completely incorrect conclusion by Aeao.
Let me cut thru the fat and just explain why your argument is ridiculous. I’ll put politics and jokes aside.
I love a battle semantics more than most. I once brought a $100 dictionary to my HOA pool to explain “dusk” to the security guard.
Let me explain why your argument is silly.
You want numbers to prove it was a failure, correct?
Okay. We will have them in a couple days when they are available. However in the meantime YOU need to define your parameters if you are going to argue. What exactly is a “failure” to you? How little viewing/attendance is the threshold for this argument? When is a parade a failure exactly?
If you want to argue what is or isn’t a failed parade and you want proof… Fine, but we need your goal posts, we need to know you describe as a failed parade because numbers are just numbers. What’s your metric?
Just to make this clear, you are doing the exact same thing that conservatives do; make a claim with no evidence to prove so, when questioned divert and/or provide anecdotal evidence, and then when pushed further state that it’s the questioner’s job to provide the evidence. You’re acting like you’re better than conservatives and then doing the same bullshit they do. Be better.
You’re the one not providing figures and saying it’s a failure dude. It’s not my job to define failure, you’re the one making the claim. Not to pull out logical fallacies but this is the biggest case of “burden of proof” I’ve ever seen. I don’t really give a shit how many people went to the parade, it’s a huge waste of money and a joke no matter what.
You are the one making crazy claims without proof. Either wait for the proof or don’t be mad when others point out that you have no proof. I’m just helping out the poor other soul that pointed out your ridiculous claims that serve only to make democrats and people supporting the protests look bad. You know how they make us look bad? Because what happens when someone shows up and says “the no kings day protests were a huge failure” and you provide the nice stats that are already available showing it’s a success, and then that same person says “the birthday parade was a huge success” and you have zero facts to back that up! You literally only make it look like you’re incapable of being unbiased.
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You (and apparently 11 others) have completely misread my comment. I explicitly said "That doesn’t mean that the Macy’s day parade is a failure. Macy’s Day Parade is clearly absolutely a success. And guess what, there’s metrics to back it up. My point is that just because I do not watch it doesn’t mean that it’s not a success. There are zero metrics provided by Aeao nor by the article to substantiate any sort of conclusion about trump’s parade one way or the other. Until those statistics come out, anything anyone says about the failure or success of the event is just spreading misinformation.
Source of those numbers? If they are true, then you have serious reasons to call that a “failure” indeed. Where did you get them from?
I think they didn’t provide a source because there are no reliable numbers. Those may still come at a later date.
I did find these sources though. They suggest that the turnout was substantially lower than expected and that estimates of attendance numbers are hotly debated.
https://www.thetimes.com/us/american-politics/article/trump-military-parade-crowd-size-protests-s3pkrphr8
https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/trump-protests-military-parade
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c2kqe5yv0yzt
Grab photos and do what the experts do: count heads.
Even at a glance on those photos you look like a fucking braindead idiot.
I know you’re getting downvoted a lot, but I don’t think you’re a Trump supporter or arguing in bad faith. I know what you mean.
People on the left, like myself, were always going to call the parade a failure. It was always going to be a sad, pointless attempt at spectacle. By its very nature, it was a failure. In no world were we going to say, “yeah I hate the guy, but damn if he doesn’t know how to throw a bitchin’ parade.”
On the flipside, Trump and Maga folks were always going to call it a success. Or maybe there are reports of angry red hat people who expected a better show and were disappointed. Unlikely, though.
On what terms do you define its success or failure? Yes, attendance is one. If they expected ten times as many people, then, as you say, it’s a failure. You aren’t wrong for asking for a source.
I think your original comment was less along the lines of, “how do we know it wasn’t an amazing success, though?” and more like, “wasn’t the parade exactly as expected?”
Google is your friend.
Also if you’re actually into numbers and want to care about something where numbers matter: https://electiontruthalliance.org/ and https://smartelections.us/
It’s not as entertaining and more difficult to play oppositional keyboard warrior with, but numbers are numbers. You’re not a numbercist are you?
No. It really isn’t.
So you don’t have any source except for some screenshot of a message?
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Username sure checks out
I thought that too. Trump got what he wanted, how’s that a failure?
Narcissists crave attention. 90% empty seats is basically a bitchslap.
This, trump had 11mil attendees.
But for the other event.
Yeah literally nothing in the article to suggest that it was a failure. He screamed his propaganda, people were there for it and his sponsors got their word out.