• Vespair@lemm.ee
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    12 hours ago

    Sure, she’s probably not the reason the film is bad.

    That being said, I have never once seen her in anything and not thought “god, couldn’t they have cast anyone else?” So like, she sure as hell didn’t help this film, or any other she’s been in.

    And on top of being a bad actress and a fairly unlikeable person in appearances, she’s an enormous nepo-baby.

    So somehow she managed to be no wrong here, but also entirely wrong here.

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    1 day ago

    That is a pretty blunt statement for a Hollywood actress/actor. Calling executives that could land her on some blacklist.

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    Nobody should be blaming the cast. This wasn’t a situation where bad performances failed to connect the viewer with an otherwise excellent film. Madame Web was quite possibly the worst tentpole film by a major studio ever. It was definitely the worst comic book movie ever made, and that’s a competitive field.

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    But did she read the script before accepting the job or did she just see the check? Because it’s true that it wasn’t her performance that ruined the movie, but I think the disaster was coming long before filming even started.

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      From the article:

      Sometimes in this industry, you sign on to something, and it’s one thing and then as you’re making it, it becomes a completely different thing, and you’re like, ‘Wait, what?’

      The script she signed up for probably didn’t make it to the final movie. The production was likely a poorly coordinated mess with ever changing demands from the higher ups.

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        It was a film about Madame Web, there is no universe in which that could have a good script at any point of its production. It was evident from the same idea that it was a bad idea

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          What a dumb statement. Competent and passionate people can make any idea fun and engaging. This was 100% a cash grab and they hooked everyone with a bait and switch script.

          Edit: Just because none of those people were involved in this film doesn’t invalidate the point. If anything it reinforces it.

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            The competent and passionate people can do that, can you point out someone competent and passionate involved at some point in the development of this film?

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          I would encourage you to not speak so assuredly about how successful an adaptation can or cannot be based solely on source material.

          Filmmaking is hard work, made even more difficult by executive producers who think their opinion should be weighted over that of the creative team. I’ve seen this first-hand, and I’ve watched projects I’ve been excited to take on turn sour.

          It happens all the time.

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            Yeah, sure, making a movie is hard work and deserves recognition, but when you tell me that a film like Bortherlands, for example, was ruined by the executives, I can believe that. However, if you tell me that behind Madame Web there was a creative team with great ideas and that the executives were the ones who ruined it… well, honestly, I don’t buy that. Especially because no creative had any real input on the movie at any point—it was 100% decided and driven by the executives.

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    Which is likely true…

    A multi billion dollar corporation doesn’t have people running large divisions who cares about the division, they’re all “executives” who don’t know about any part of a business besides profits must always go up.

    But unless you’re part of a mega Corp, you’ll get pushed out or bought out by one of the mega corps eventually.

    We’re speed running cyberpunk, people have been warning us how capitalism ends for well over 50 years by now.