i wonder what y’all have to say about this
I choose not to think to overthink this. Bringing up a kid has its rewards and as comic points out, sacrifices. Most parents gladly do whatever necessary so their kid has the best life in this world, and this comic just pokes fun of a phase of our life where we think more of our selves than what our parents offer up for us.
Bad taste? Sure, but sometimes bad jokes are the ones that get the point across and lit most discussion around the topic.
Just my 2 cents.
Lmao at lemmets being so offended here
Huh, a post about shithole parents being exceptionally shitty. Ha ha I guess?
Really kinda gross that their kid gets zapped and they immediately celebrate.
No wonder the kid hated them. He knew.
Parents, go hug your kid and tell them you love em.
Parents, go hug your kid and tell them you love em.
Better yet, use birth control and don’t condemn another life to this shit hole reality in the first place.
Uhhh, you good?
Dude, why are you so fucking good, it’s suspect.
No? How are you?
I feel nothing but revulsion and disgust for the person who made this comic.
It places its sympathy towards parents, which is nonsense. They’re the ones who choose to bring the child into existence in the first place. They should fucking bear the guilt and try and make up for it as best as they can.
i don’t know who wrote it but i think it might’ve been a kid who drew it. I’ve often felt like my parents hated me (i hated them for that too) and i’ve often contemplated leaving. i’ve always came to the conclusion that they would be happy if i did so, or if I killed myself. I never did because I was 10 years old and I was scared what would happen to me and i didn’t exactly have the means to kms.
When I was 6, I told my mother I hated her and she threw away my entire Pokémon card collection. I think my hatred was probably justified. (I had a holo Charizard, bitch could have sold it for grocery money.)
My parents treated me mostly fine, though I’m fairly certain with my father it was fairly conditional, I was just careful to not get on his bad side. Now not so much.
Even with acceptable or even good parents, I still find everything to be fairly existentially unpleasant. I resent being born.
That said, despite that I still love my mom. Shes a good person despite having given birth to me.
Have you read Emil Cioran? He’s got a lot of interesting thoughts along that existential pessimism.
I’ve not read any of his work but I am aware of him. I suspect that I’d likely agree with him on a lot. But I’ve also read that reading his work would probably make me even more depressed about being born.
I tried Camus’s “nothing matters so make up a meaning you like and run with it” for a while, which I think works for one’s first few existential crises.
The clumsy solution I’ve stumbled on is viewing this all as a war against entropy and evil. Anger is a feeling that has escape velocity, that even if one feels crushed by the despair inherent to being human, you can at least pick up your “weapons” and keep tumbling on.
There’s some positives in the experiences and small pleasures, like art and discussion and philosophy, but it’s mostly a fight.
I think Planescape: Torment explores a lot of these ideas in a way that’s a bit less “despairingly” nihilistic. The “best” ending means the Nameless One spending eternity in hell fighting in a pointless brutal war - but it feels correct, it has meaning.
Boomers gonna boom.
This post appears to be at odds with c/childfree and c/suicidewatch.
Which one are you though?
I don’t necessarily think that comics that have toxic messages are inherently a problem.
I think a perfectly reasonable parent would relate to the comic at some point. Read as more of a vent post I get it. So long as it’s recognised as a toxic perspective and is indulged as a temporary way to air their grievance in their own head I think it can be helpful
I mean, seems like these parents never wanted kids. It’s amazing how many pregnancies are accidental. I wonder how many would actually have children if everyone had 100% control over when to conceive.
I am glad I’m making the people around me suffer because they deserve it. 😈
Ngl, this post really doesn’t send a good message. Is it true for some people? Probably
But my parents pushed me into 3 days of tafe, 2 days of uni, and 2 days of work a week when I was younger. It caused me to crash and burn
It honestly makes people who are already doing a lot feel like they have to do more to make up for what their parents have given up for them, and that’s just unhealthy
I had to move away from that mindset, and something like this really wouldn’t have helped
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My comment is sort of inflammatory for no reason, sorry I made it. Deleting
Damn, just you look at this goomba. Galoomba even.
Not my experience.
Ngl, this post really doesn’t send a good message.
Have you like… seen the internet broadly in the last 20 years?
Literally what I think would happen if I disappeared. This is kinda a dangerous post for people with suicidal ideation.
Your existence would be retroactively undone, with the every physical trace of your existence being erased?
I’ve been watching Mr Rogers lately since I have a young kid now and I think thats the way to act. Even people he might disagree with he would have a chill discussion and respect their opinion, just letting them vent their problems.
Thats extremely unhelpful and even harmful for many people
Trigger warning: depression
I personally have depression and have been through horrible things before I even turned 18. So yeah if you told me when I was 15 or 16 that eveyone around be would be significantly happier and better off with me not around I would genuenly consider jumping off a bridge.
I definitely see your point, though I took this as an anti-natalist joke, not a refutation of “It’s a Wonderful Life”.
I’m inclined to wonder at what point the arguments of anti-natalism must be weighed against the nihilistic implications on those already born?
Me too, and I agree it would have had a negative effect when I was at a vulnerable stage way back then.
Now that I’m a grisly old bastard, and a parent, I found it funny af.
So, mixed feelings.
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ngl that post is rather toxic
There’s a suicidal way of thinking that when you are gone everyone will be better off. I think the comic could contribute to that thinking, but maybe it’s meant to be a satirical rebuttal to that thinking instead.
Poe’s Law
I feel like anybody stuck in that state of mind would likely fail to see the satire in it.
maybe it’s meant to be a satirical rebuttal to that thinking instead
I don’t see that. If it’s satire it’s pretty harmful and ineffective
I think the satire is to via hyperbole. My suicidal episodes did not make be think money would instantly appear in hand / in bank accounts, just that moving forward I would be no longer be a resource burden. This comic takes the results beyond reality to show how unreasonable even realistic expectations might be. (?)
That’s my best defense of the satirical intent. The initial impression I got from the comic was not the satirical one; it did feel “toxic”, or at least a like a mean-spirited (not funny) “be careful what you wish for”.
Wait till they get into puberty.
i had one of those my self, and i was very stupid and anoying during that, that dosent mean my parents want me gone wtf
Uh, isn’t it the kid saying they wish they were never born?
This comic might not be about you personally
What? But I’m the main character. Everything is about me personally.
Yep, parental puberty is a terrifying phase.
If you can’t trust a cobra chicken on the topic of being toxic, whom can you trust?
In case you missed the origin story:
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/382/765/31b.jpg
I did miss it, thank you for the enlightenment!
I’m startimg to think that’s the point.
Maybe don’t constantly tell your 13 year old to get a job if they want something, then sabotage any attempt they make at getting a job?
Maybe don’t have a kid so you have something resembling a proto-personality beyond self absorbed narcissism.
Don’t expect a kid to fix a failing marriage.
sometimes the kid saying that is a little shit. Sometimes it is the parents that are the problem.
Yup. In my opinion if you want to have a child, the only reason should be to raise a better person than you or your spouse could be, and provide them with a better life than you had, enriching your life in the process. If you have a kid for any other reason, it’s out of selfishness
In that case you would be creating a child (that did not exist before) as a tool to show to yourself (and maybe others) that you can do better than your parents. As the child had no problems before it’s creation, and now has many, that’s still not in the interest of the child.
The selfless thing to do would be to figure out if you would be an above-average adoptive parent. If you are or can be, then adopt a child that was created by someone else (maybe to show that they can do better than their parents, but life happened and they failed), and try to give them the best life possible in a society where everyone tries to outperform everyone else as the world is hurdling towards fascism and climate collapse.
Don’t expect a kid to fix a failing marriage.
“If I didn’t have a kid, my wife would be more fuckable” is the takeaway I get from this comic. And fuck me that’s sad.
