Or…OR!…and hear me out here…we work remotely in jobs where it is sensible to do so, AND keep the pay.
Garbage corpo propaganda piece.
Or…OR!..and here me out here…companies demand workers return to office AND cut their pay.
Garbage corpos. Everything is going to shit because already insanely wealthy shareholders demand number go up at any cost.
For remote work, I’ll absolutely settle for less pay… Right now. Once my company starts demanding I come in (no talks of it fortunately), I’ll be submitting for my hours and mileage. I’ve been WFH 3 years, at this point it’s more I’m going to demand more if you want me in a specific building.
No way, they should pay me more since they’re saving money on office space. Why do the employees have to take a cut by default?
When my job went remote from covid it was like getting a double digit raise if I count the commute as overtime and vehicle costs plus on site meals.
That means working from home is comparable to a pay raise. That does not mean that workers need to give anything up to keep it. It means companies need to pay more to people who are required to commute.
yup. I give a rate for 100% wfh and what the bump has to be for each day of the week expected in office. I will work in office but they will have to pay and its not cheap.
Less costs for building maintenance means less salary? Fuck off.
I think their true motivation is less available tax write-offs for that commercial real estate expense, which seems to me like piss poor adaptability of a company that a free market should eat alive.
No we won’t and this nonsense article tries to set a very bad precedent. I was dealing with this just yesterday, new job offer comes my way last month with 2 salary choices. Come in the office for 20% more pay, work from home for less. I’m already making the higher amount with my current job, working from home. So I pass, They counter and offer other perks, I pass. This goes on for 9 days now. Yesterday, I just told them to stop, I have zero interest in working with a company that tries every way to hire me except for what I ask for.
I might add that the financials of the company were north of a billion. Get paid for what you’re worth, not where you work.
This should be standard, people don’t become less productive when working from home. Vast majority of wfh folks I know spend more time and are more productive at home. If my company tried to pull this nonsense (it wouldn’t because its actually a great place to work) I’d immediately start looking for a different job. On Linkedin and other platforms I literally don’t even consider or look at non wfh positions.
Also I don’t know what jobs are thinking. Its stupid to think someone will change jobs for less pay and move into a non-wfh position from a wfh one. Those jobs should always be avoided, because they clearly think you’re too stupid to do basic math.
I’d consider taking an in-office position if the trade off was I start my commute at 9, and leave so I get home roughly for 5, so the tradeoff is that my drive is on company time.
If part of my job is to look at the inside of my car for 90 minutes and then remote connect to my home computer from the other side of the city for some reason, and you’re willing to pay me more than my currently employer to do so: have at it.
this would still require a bump for me. I get to see my wife and dog casually all day. I am able to eat a nicer and cheaper meal at home as well as walk my dog at lunch. Then there is the additional environmental damage that comes out of my commute. That scenario would significantly reduced the bump I would expect from in office though.
Easily $20k for me.
Edit: I probably wasn’t clear. I work remote. It would take at a minimum $20k extra to consider a non-remote job.
Don’t set this precedent. You’re paid for the work you do, not where you do it.
The job is kinda paying you for you commute then, which is something they should have been doing anyway. This just makes it more confusing than paying for your travel time.
I’d get a job somewhere else that paid less if I could work from home.
Commuting costs time and money. If I can break even on the commute cost, I’m happy.
Commuting cost more than money
Commuting cost time, which is priceless.
My company has a work from home culture desk that allows its employees to work from anywhere on the Greenwich meridian +/- 1 hour
I wouldn’t leave for a WFO job until I’m paid €50000 more
Not who you responded to but I have a set amount for non WFH. You see I work for who I want not who wants me. The WFH position is different from the non WFH one and requires different compensation.
Ah yeah I hear ya. If you’re switching jobs then go for it. I was thinking more like, your boss comes up to you (zooms you I guess) and says, “we’re gonna cut your pay because you don’t have to drive to work any more”
Yeah that would not cut it. I won’t sign a contract with that. We can go on as written or they can drop me. Lowering compensation is never going to fly with me.
The simple fact is that if you were wasting $100 a month on fuel you were working for $100 a month less already.
Just be real, benefits are part of your pay and your commute can either be a good part of your benefits or a negotiation in higher pay.
But also, the company is saving money by not paying for an office, so I can argue that they need to pay me the same salary as rent for my office space.
Like, say I can work from home but I don’t have the space. Now I need a more expensive place with an extra room that I can dedicate for an office.
I don’t have the option of working from home, I’m just saying don’t let those fuckers hoodwink you in to less than you’re worth.
That office will be there in that building whether you are in it or not.
The only thing you’re saving is the power your computer would use and the miniscule amount of energy that it took to cool down your body heat and maybe an elevator if you go up at all by yourself
