Fuck yes, finally!
Finally what? Finally the media is covering the protests that have been going on the entire time? They’re growing but they weren’t small even a month or two ago.
Why all these marches in areas that these oligarchs don’t care about? Why not their mansions?
because America is big, like really big. Its not like EU countries where you can just hop on a train and get to the capital in a day. for someone in South Dakota its at least a three day commitment to travel and protest in DC, and encase you didn’t notice most people in this country can’t afford that.
The U.S. is pretty much as big as Europe.
It’s not easy to drive thousands of kilometers to get to their mansions. These marches happened all over the place, in major cities and capital cities.
People drove from all across the country to go to Washington yesterday, organizers supplied coaches from every major city. Same with BLM, Occupy, and many movements before it. But god forbid we do that towards a location that could actually make a difference.
The White House is more than 40 hours away from here driving non-stop.
The number of people from here who could have participated in a march at the White House (maybe taking a week off work in order to get there and back traveling 16 hours a day by bus) would have been very small. Instead, thousands of us marched in our local downtown yesterday in a solid throng.
Protests at a specific location convey a message, but mass protests everywhere convey a message too.
Millions of people protesting isn’t good enough for you?
Voting would be better lmao
I think most of these protests were properly permitted (I know my local one was). Protestors in residential areas would likely get arrested for stuff like disturbing the peace, even if they stayed on public property such as roads. They’d probably try to charge the organizers for something too, which is probably why they aren’t being organized. But, I agree there should be protests at these people’s homes regardless.
Which, specifically? They all have several.
The people going to events want political action to fix the problem and prevent it from occuring again. Not pointless Lynchings for petty revenge.
Now if we could organize in a way that encourages conservatives to switch sides then that would be cool, like a tour through conservative counties.
Now all they have to do this until main stream media cannot widely ignore this in the US.
It’s been a couple of decades since I’ve lived in the states, but I used to watch some US TV, via satellite and later cable (TV through fiber, actually) I stopped watching US TV 2-3 years prior to COVID. I just can’t stand it. Regular TV is pretty bad worldwide, but US TV is on another level of bad.
It’ll be right before the false flag attack used to justify repression of dissent
That being America, it would not surprise me.
Why not gather the masses outside their mansions? Why do people keep gathering at the most calculatedly ineffectual areas where they’re ignored time and time again?
Have you ever been to the U.S.? We can’t all drive 3,000 km. We live in a country with drastically lower population density than European countries.
People drove across the country to go to Washington yesterday, organizers supplied coaches from every major city. Same with BLM, Occupy, and many movements before it. But god forbid we do that towards a location that could actually make a difference.
Stop watching that trash. The US has awesome media outlets that have been widely covering US protests.
For heavens sake, I’m not a regular watcher of US mainstream “media”. There is only so much junk a human can stand. I was just observing the coverage of this particular event out of curiosity what they would do about it.
Wonderful, dear US friends!
A powerful sign against all the hatred and corruption that Trump and his henchmen stand for.
I think large demonstrations like this are incredibly important, especially nowadays, because the manipulation in social media and the traditional media can so easily give the false impression that a majority would share the inhumane ideology of this regime.
For the tens of thousands on the streets, it is obvious how many decent people there actually are.
Trump and his opinion makers can do little about this - apart from their usual ridiculous conspiracy theories around Soros and other such Bogus. Because not even these unscrupulous fascists can (yet) dare to stop thousands and thousands of people from demonstrating, or even have them all arrested.
Good luck and all the best from Europe!
It is not tens of thousands.
D.C alone has an estimated 100.000 people marching.
Nationwide the number is believed to be 5 million, i read somewhere.
Yes, all the better
In our city there’s been a march since Friday. Can’t find any non local news reporting on it.
Yes, it’s scandalous, but that’s why the people on the street are so important, because sooner or later you can no longer overlook them as they are a fact of life in the real world - and then it becomes clear how one-sided the media coverage is.
I’m so happy to see this, finally some good news from the us.
Let’s keep this momentum going fam!
Good to see more young people.
These protests need to start happening outside of these reps’ offices.
I saw someone call for protesting on golf courses, might be even better.
*houses
They just don’t go to their offices or close them or ban protests.
Reps need to be taking part in the protests. Preferably Korean-style.
God that photo goes hard on so many levels
You mean the US representatives that won’t set term limits? The US representatives that won’t vote to outlaw insider trading? The US representatives who own businesses that benefit from their legislation? Those people? Just gotta be clear here. Because I’m feeling a little uncertain about their loyalties at the moment. At least towards their voters… To their donors, I’m rock solid on where they owe their fealty.
AOC ain’t that sorry
AOC is another corporate puppet. It’s shocking how tossing her on TikTok was all it took for Dems to sell her to Zoomers.
Okay less than a day old account with an adjective_noun username. Cause you’re argument is surely being made in good faith lol
Notice how the democrat shill doesn’t address the point, but tries to dismiss me without offering anything.
You’re the one making claims lol. I’m not going to waste my time arguing with someone paid to spread disinformation. Or maybe you volunteer. I’ve got not idea. Either way, since you made the claim, the burden of proof falls on you. We’ll wait.
Because they have better things to do? You are the one making a claim without evidence, how is AOC a corporate puppet? You have to explain, not them.
Literally grassroots funded.
Literally grassroots funded but okay schmuck
Term limits(for congress) aren’t an issue. It’s outright good to have a portion of reps with institutional knowledge on how to run a government, and extremely helpful in diplomacy with other countries as well.
Age limits are the real issue to push, because geriatric fucks being in charge is the real danger.
Everything else, I wholly and completely agree with you on
Glad we we ol Gymboree Jordan and Louie Gomert there as bulwarks of diplomacy.
I would prefer a slightly incompetent but well meaning person to lead, than someone malicious and skilled. With the former, they will be willing to acknowledge their mistakes or what people want, while the latter would play shell games while pocketing the riches of the people.
Term and age limits are needed, so that evil people cannot build a nest made out of the government. What we lose in raw efficiency, we regain from a lack of corruption.
I don’t think we’ll see the upheaval of a fascist regime by picketers carrying signs any time soon.
Obeying in advance, yikes fucking pathetic.
No but it’s the first step. As momentum builds more people are emboldened to protest, and the scope of the protests widen and get more effective.
This sort of statement is typically made by people who want to stall and prevent action. You see it all the time in various forums: “if this activity doesn’t 100% fix everything immediately then there is no point in doing anything”.
Unfortunately we don’t live in a black and white world where a switch can be flipped from awful to wonderful (as if it was even possible for everyone to agree on that). You get there in small incremental steps with messy interactions and disagreements along the way.
Protests like this can lead to ongoing effective resistance like strikes, work to rules and etc. But you don’t get someone to go from never having protested in their lives to manning a blockade of a govt building in one step.
Exactly. For the past month I’ve read many people here saying protest are useless because of various bullshit reasons. Protest are just a starting point. At protest, people talk, organize, that can lead to more massive protest, a new ideology, a revolution, or nothing. You never know.
I’m French. I have been to many protests. Some ended in massive movement for no reasons. Some died while the cause was very important. You never know.
This is to show the people who are feeling alone with their despair, that they are in fact not alone.
And it is to recruit people for the upcoming general strike.
For a general strike to take effect, it needs about 10mil people, and it is estimated that there are about 5mil people demonstrating in America today.
you speak truth and they downvote it because they don’t want to face that fact that one day of standing around accomplishes nothing. they want to think this will be easy and won’t require real sacrifice. they’re lazy and naive.
please bookmark this post. show me what changes one month from now. one year from now. please prove me wrong.
If you can’t even bother to stand around to protest, how tf are you supposed to get people to do more extreme actions when the time such drastic actions are required comes around? Your apathetic response to protesting will only lead to a more fractured society that cannot attempt any meaningful resistance to the fascist in the white house.
yeah, i’m not into wasting my time. i’m here when the people decide to get serious though.
People who are serious doesn’t balk at the idea of protesting. If you can’t even bother sacrificing time to sit around to show people that its safe for them to come fight against fascism, there is no way you’d have the guts to sacrifice your life to actually fight against the fascist when the time comes. It’s probably better if you just sit at home and don’t bother talking about fighting or protesting. At this point, you’re more of an asset to the fascists than anything, even if you didnt know it yet.
how about i do WTF i want? you’re not the judge of what works and what doesn’t. please. bookmark this comment. come back to me in a year and prove how i was wrong. the proof is in the pudding, pacifist.
Can you even read? I said your type of action is what will result in protests being ineffective at uniting the people that will fight against fascism.
People failing to remove fascism a year from now will only prove me right if you still decide to continue what you’re doing. To prove your point, you would need to join up with the protest and stop trying to kill it in its infancy and still fail to remove fascism.
So go ahead and continue what you’re doing and you might prove me right.
if the people don’t have the spine for what it takes, then it’s hopeless.
have you ever considered that a lot of these people are going to feel defeated after they waste their time protesting and nothing gets accomplished? there’s no guarantee that getting a bunch of people together for feelgood BS leads to more effective resistance. this is the same as saying “just go to college and follow your dreams and everything will magically work out”. it’s a lie. people need to understand where western civilization is at.
how about i do WTF i want? you’re not the judge of what works and what doesn’t.
Says the person judging what other people do, and what works and what doesn’t.
they want to think this will be easy and won’t require real sacrifice. they’re lazy and naive.
That’s not at all what the responses (that have been up for hours before you posted this) have been saying.
it’s everywhere
And they are doing what that is useful? The amount of people in any of these pictures could easily enter the White House and unseat Trump, yet here
wethey are, performativelizing.You want the people to “Maga hat” riot the white house? You think that’s the plan?
Were you dropped on your head as a baby?
And they are doing what that is useful?
Protesting, making their voices heard. Showing the world that not all Americans are fascists.
The amount of people in any of these pictures could easily enter the White House and unseat Trump
You clearly don’t have any idea how overzealous the security in and around the white house is.
Even IF they somehow got to the oval office after suffering hundreds if not thousands of casualties, the Mango Mussolini would have long since been whisked into a bunker and secret service and the military would arrest or kill all of them.
yet here
wethey are, performativelizingThe first person part was correct, the plural wasn’t. What’s performative is your insistence that the obviously impossible is easy.
Would it even get that far? Gathering that many people in one spot, at the same time, with a coherent plan would take… a lot of communication. And we know for a fact that the spooks are listening in.
But, hell, @[email protected], start organizing people. I’m interested in seeing how far it gets.
Honestly though. I thought it would take hundreds of casualties to get into the capital building. And really, is trump actually in the white house much? Golf ain’t going to play itself. But these protests build up the confidence of people who want to do more. It makes them feel like the people are behind them. So maybe these are warm ups for taking the white house.
I thought it would take hundreds of casualties to get into the capital building
It would have if they hadn’t been almost exclusively white members of the MAGA cult. One reason why there were so few cops hindering them was that Trump ordered a standdown, and another was the fact that there were more cops participating in the coup attempt than resisting it.
If it had been a diverse leftist group, you better believe there’d be both cops and military shooting to kill rather than the suspiciously restrained tactics employed that day.
If there is a warmup, I think the Mar-a-Lago would be a good place to make things toasty. It makes it clear what waits for Trump if he continues to use the Oval Office as a toilet bowl.
Classic astroturfing right here. “let’s bitch about people getting involved but not yet murdering people!” cut this shit out. And get involved!
Doesn’t look like that. I skimmed the profile very briefly, and it looks like a bad take on an otherwise active and normal account.
Also classic astroturfing is complaining about astroturfing. Fact is you never know who posts a comment. But mostly, I agree with your sentiment here.
I refuse to get that meta 🤣
It’s performative.
It’s the same reason sports games have hype crews in the form of bands or a cheer squad. It livens the audience up.
In politics it also sends a message to their reps that they could/should be a little bit more aggressive in promoting what their people are saying.
Attack the head of the snake and chances are you’ll get bit. He’ll be in a chopper before a window gets broken and the National Guard will be there in minutes.
The GOP are getting cold feet, Musk is close to leaving, and Trump is starting to throw his appointees under the bus. Sorry you probably won’t get to see Trump tied up and crowd surfed into a van to never be seen again but this is the process.
“Gaddafi!” Sorry, it just popped into my head when I read "crowd surfed ".
Sorry you probably won’t get to see Trump tied up and crowd surfed into a van to never be seen again but this is the process.
Sure, whatever process that works works. My point is I’m not seeing a process - I’m no seeing progress. Just complaining, which is something the elites can already and have always burrowed their heads in the sand at.
The process is broken because the people in charge of the processes hadn’t had a reminder that the American people wants them to perform their job. This is that reminder. In order for the reminder to be more effective, we need more people to join in, not more people trying to douse cold water on the movement just to promote more drastic actions that lacks the foundation to do anything effective. You want people to be able to drag fascists out of the White House if the situation calls for it? Then, you need more people that is able to fight against fascism. Easiest method to do that is to protest together and show more people that there is enough people fighting against it for them to come out fighting as well.
I do agree that the resistance needs to become more radical, but you don’t just enter the seat of power and unseat the democratically elected president. Like it or not he still has a popular mandate and that needs to be destroyed first; that’s ultimately what civic resistance is all about. Also he has armed security, which can just shoot any intruders in part because of said popular mandate.
What popular mandate? The guy won the same amount of votes as last time. Stop with this mandate shit, it’s bullcrap.
Like it or not he still has a popular mandate and that needs to be destroyed first;
Okay, then how? Because from what I have seen pretty much every official in a position of civil service just resigns to let Trump do as he pleases, so there’s not much of a resistance. Who in civil service is supposed to unseat Trump? DOGE is certainly not gonna do it.
Who in civil service is supposed to unseat Trump?
Absolutely nobody. Trump’s mandate has to be destroyed by widespread popular resistance. Think what Ukraine and Tunisia did and Turkey is doing right now.
It’d be nice if all of these protesters had bothered to vote and not with protest votes.
Oh look, another liberal blaming eveybody and anybody except the traish-tier Democrat platform/candidate.
“proper action wasn’t taken in the past therfore I won’t accept any action being taken in the future.”
What makes you think they didn’t?
75 million people voted for Harris. We likely won’t know the count of today’s protests, but I feel safe saying it was far fewer than 75 million.
The estimate was 5 million people across 1300 cities.
A lot of people complaining about these protests seem to think that level of coordinated protesting isn’t impressive.
Those numbers alone should make anyone stop and think about what’s going on.
It’s going to get bigger as people’s 401Ks evaporate.
I think these people are the ones to have voted.
More astroturfing
In the US system it doesn’t matter how you vote except in like 7 states.
Well, that wouldn’t be true if everyone voted, but it does bring up the point that winner take all is just a bad representative system.
